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> On the other hand, I reckon the average Chinese person on the street hears about corporate boycotts like this and just thinks: you Westerners are a bloody bun

> On the other hand, I reckon the average Chinese person on the street hears about corporate boycotts like this and just thinks: you Westerners are a bloody bunch of hypocrites. An average Chinese person on the street doesn't think, he is preoccupied with making a living, and has no time to watch nor the Radio Free Asia, nor People's Daily. And if given chance to immigrate, and money, most will not give a f__k what is to happen to China, or America tomorrow. Locals would agonize much less about the fate of their country than idle intellectuals in the West, as they are smart enough to see that they have zero stake in it. There is nothing in life an average Chinese gets from his country, and nor would he want to give anything back to it.

oreally 6y ago
That's quite some level of denigration and generalization on the average chinese person you've put out. Consider the fact that China raised millions out of poverty. Consider the fact that they're one of the few countries able to stand up to the US. Consider the fact China has the most opportunities out of the few chinese-majority countries in the world. It's a great deal for them.
- baybal2 6y ago
  That's not denigration, that's reality. > Consider the fact that China raised millions out of poverty. Nobody raised anybody out of poverty. The only ones they have to thank for raising them out of poverty are themselves. It was that party in the first place which plunged China into the abyss. Telling that you can only have nice living because of the party is the true denigration. > That's quite some level of denigration and generalization on the average chinese person you've put out. An average Chinese person has more enough reasons to hate the country with passion that idle Western intellectuals. I myself know many people personally whose relative were killed by communists, and some even know where children of those murderers live today. Be grateful for that??? Hundred curses
  - oreally 6y ago
    > Nobody raised anybody out of poverty. The only ones they have to thank for raising them out of poverty are themselves. It was that party in the first place which plunged China into the abyss. Do you honestly think that in 1970s rural china without investments into infrastructure you'd still be able to pull yourself out of poverty? These things require huge organized effort. Not sure where you got the idea that the average chinese should be grateful to the party. I've said nothing about that, just pointing out the advantages of the average Chinese person.
    - david38 6y ago
      You are the correct. The poster has no idea what they’re saying. Never in the history of the world have a few hundred million people just up and decided to raise themselves out of poverty because they felt like it, all at the same time. This is 100% a result of * government policies * technology * international cooperation Hell, there is even a name for the project! The Great Leap Forward.
      - jenshk 6y ago
        The Great Leap Forward, has nothing to do with the current success in China. That was Mao's project that resulted in tens of millions of deaths. The reason for China's success is all about the economic reforms introduced by Deng Xiaoping in the 1980's. Deng's policies and influence is still relevate in todays China, except Xi Jinping is more hard core than Deng would have liked. Deng in his later years was more of a pragmatic than idealistic, as Deng said: "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat.". Yes, what's happing in Xinjiang is terrible. But it does not take away from the success of Deng's policies in transforming China. Make no mistake - most Chinese backs the party, even thou they know it has also done some terrible things. They do that because of the financial success of the policies. It's also true, that there is currently no alternative to the party in China. Secondly there are many opinions inside the party both for and against Xi Jinping. It's not black and white.

oreally 6y ago

That's quite some level of denigration and generalization on the average chinese person you've put out. Consider the fact that China raised millions out of poverty. Consider the fact that they're one of the few countries able to stand up to the US. Consider the fact China has the most opportunities out of the few chinese-majority countries in the world. It's a great deal for them.

baybal2 6y ago
That's not denigration, that's reality. > Consider the fact that China raised millions out of poverty. Nobody raised anybody out of poverty. The only ones they have to thank for raising them out of poverty are themselves. It was that party in the first place which plunged China into the abyss. Telling that you can only have nice living because of the party is the true denigration. > That's quite some level of denigration and generalization on the average chinese person you've put out. An average Chinese person has more enough reasons to hate the country with passion that idle Western intellectuals. I myself know many people personally whose relative were killed by communists, and some even know where children of those murderers live today. Be grateful for that??? Hundred curses
- oreally 6y ago
  > Nobody raised anybody out of poverty. The only ones they have to thank for raising them out of poverty are themselves. It was that party in the first place which plunged China into the abyss. Do you honestly think that in 1970s rural china without investments into infrastructure you'd still be able to pull yourself out of poverty? These things require huge organized effort. Not sure where you got the idea that the average chinese should be grateful to the party. I've said nothing about that, just pointing out the advantages of the average Chinese person.
  - david38 6y ago
    You are the correct. The poster has no idea what they’re saying. Never in the history of the world have a few hundred million people just up and decided to raise themselves out of poverty because they felt like it, all at the same time. This is 100% a result of * government policies * technology * international cooperation Hell, there is even a name for the project! The Great Leap Forward.
    - jenshk 6y ago
      The Great Leap Forward, has nothing to do with the current success in China. That was Mao's project that resulted in tens of millions of deaths. The reason for China's success is all about the economic reforms introduced by Deng Xiaoping in the 1980's. Deng's policies and influence is still relevate in todays China, except Xi Jinping is more hard core than Deng would have liked. Deng in his later years was more of a pragmatic than idealistic, as Deng said: "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat.". Yes, what's happing in Xinjiang is terrible. But it does not take away from the success of Deng's policies in transforming China. Make no mistake - most Chinese backs the party, even thou they know it has also done some terrible things. They do that because of the financial success of the policies. It's also true, that there is currently no alternative to the party in China. Secondly there are many opinions inside the party both for and against Xi Jinping. It's not black and white.