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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22761274 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22761274 There are virologists that have put in more work than idle speculat

• salawat 6y ago
  There are also quite a population of free and independent people with non-trivial levels of education capable of identifying how politically expedient it would be for the field of virology and for China in general if the blame could just be deflected away from anything having to do with how they do research. Just because you have a Ph.D doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't be called out by those without. The world was impacted hard by this, and the required, rather quick independent verification and transparency that would quickly absolve WIV of any suspicion has not been forthcoming. What has come from "experts" has been tainted from the start by conflicts of interest in doing anything possible to avoid further restraints on possible avenues of research, combined with China's shiftyness regarding the early days of the pandemic does not lead to or inspire confidence in the establishment narrative. Just because everyone else seems to believe human beings aren't capable of doing stupid, self-serving, but ultimately destructive things doesn't mean everyone else has to drink that kool-aid. https://project-evidence.github.io/ https://project-evidence.github.io/
  • ggm 6y ago
    Sorry, not very convincing. As they point out, peer review sources needed. The peer review sources they cited are either speculative, side issues or informational, but not evidence. And nice job dismissing quotes experts unquote.
• temp8964 6y ago
  Not made in a lab != Not leaked from a lab. You are confusing two very different things.