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> Well that's just inefficiency or graft. The rest of the world is able to achieve far more for far less cost. Citation? > Who's our? Generally voters tend to

> Well that's just inefficiency or graft. The rest of the world is able to achieve far more for far less cost. Citation? > Who's our? Generally voters tend to be older, wealthier and landowners. The large pile of younger, less wealthy, more transient renters isn't represented well. I don't think the outcome means the system works. That’s how democracy works. If you don’t vote, you don’t have a voice.

arcticbull 6y ago
> Citation? All costs below are in $USD nominal per mile of fully-underground subway system. NYC subway extension, east side: $3.7B per mile. SF Central subway: $928M per mile. Tokyo: $400M Beijing: $240M Berlin: $327M Naples: $194M Milan: $175M This is backed up by a Citylab analysis: Alon Levy at Citylab shows approximate range of underground rail construction costs in continental Europe and Japan is between $100 million per mile and $1 billion. Most subway lines cluster in the range of $200 million to $500 million per mile. The US has a range of subway construction costs of $600 million to $2.6 billion per mile. The US median price cluster is $800 million to $1 billion per mile. And of course plotted in Tableau [5]. > That’s how democracy works. If you don’t vote, you don’t have a voice. Indeed. [1] https://www.marketplace.org/2019/04/11/subways-us-expensive-cost-comparison/ https://www.marketplace.org/2019/04/11/subways-us-expensive-... [2] https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/01/subways-and-light-rail-cost-two-to-seven-times-more-to-build-in-the-usa-than-europe-or-japan.html https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/01/subways-and-light-rail... [3] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-26/the-u-s-gets-less-subway-for-its-money-than-its-peers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-26/the-u-s-g... [4] https://pedestrianobservations.com/2011/08/22/construction-costs-third-world-edition/ https://pedestrianobservations.com/2011/08/22/construction-c... [5] https://public.tableau.com/profile/romic2976#!/vizhome/EnoTransitCostDatabaseVisualizations/Figure3GradeAlignmentvs_Cost-per-Kilometer https://public.tableau.com/profile/romic2976#!/vizhome/EnoTr...

arcticbull 6y ago

> Citation? All costs below are in $USD nominal per mile of fully-underground subway system. NYC subway extension, east side: $3.7B per mile. SF Central subway: $928M per mile. Tokyo: $400M Beijing: $240M Berlin: $327M Naples: $194M Milan: $175M This is backed up by a Citylab analysis: Alon Levy at Citylab shows approximate range of underground rail construction costs in continental Europe and Japan is between $100 million per mile and $1 billion. Most subway lines cluster in the range of $200 million to $500 million per mile. The US has a range of subway construction costs of $600 million to $2.6 billion per mile. The US median price cluster is $800 million to $1 billion per mile. And of course plotted in Tableau [5]. > That’s how democracy works. If you don’t vote, you don’t have a voice. Indeed. [1] https://www.marketplace.org/2019/04/11/subways-us-expensive-cost-comparison/ https://www.marketplace.org/2019/04/11/subways-us-expensive-... [2] https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/01/subways-and-light-rail-cost-two-to-seven-times-more-to-build-in-the-usa-than-europe-or-japan.html https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/01/subways-and-light-rail... [3] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-26/the-u-s-gets-less-subway-for-its-money-than-its-peers https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-26/the-u-s-g... [4] https://pedestrianobservations.com/2011/08/22/construction-costs-third-world-edition/ https://pedestrianobservations.com/2011/08/22/construction-c... [5] https://public.tableau.com/profile/romic2976#!/vizhome/EnoTransitCostDatabaseVisualizations/Figure3GradeAlignmentvs_Cost-per-Kilometer https://public.tableau.com/profile/romic2976#!/vizhome/EnoTr...