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He's fat, unattractive (not to say ugly), asocial and most likely borderline autistic. Don't get me wrong, I've attempted to book him for a conference, and exp

He's fat, unattractive (not to say ugly), asocial and most likely borderline autistic. Don't get me wrong, I've attempted to book him for a conference, and experienced the two-page long list of "requests" to be fulfilled, but he's basically being cancelled for having a dissenting opinion from the current culture war going on. edit: to the downvoters, plenty of slim handsome socially-skillful celebrities have done worth than RMS and got away with a slap on their wrist.

core-questions 6y ago
Yeah, that's the long and the short of it. RMS has had fantastic ideas, and I think he generally cares quite a bit about humanity, but the guy is weird, and people don't seem to be willing to put up with that brand of weird. (You can be plenty of other sorts of weird and not be cancelled, of course, making the whole thing quite arbitrary....)
- alacombe 6y ago
  > (You can be plenty of other sorts of weird and not be cancelled, of course, making the whole thing quite arbitrary....) ... and you just summarized everything wrong with the current bs going on. You've got to be the right kind of weird to fit in their narrative, everybody else is gonna be cancelled. "The pot calling the kettle black" they used to say... Today's puritans are no better than yesterday's.
  - xref 6y ago
    You just hand-waived sexual harassment away as not “the right kind of weird” and speaking out against a serial perpetrator of it as “Puritanism”
- klyrs 6y ago
  The "weird" in question is perpetual harassment of women. As in, doing harm to individuals in our community. Granted, He has had fantastic ideas... but has he been contributing fantastic ideas to the GCC steering committee in the last decade? What's he actually bringing to the table that offsets the harm that he causes? And FWIW, I think he's cute and I've never been on a second date with a guy who wasn't socially awkward.
rbanffy 6y ago
This is not about his poor hygiene or his rudeness. This is about his misogyny, him not recognizing other people's work, him making women uncomfortable in person, his earlier normalization of paedophilia, his half-hearted apologies and whatever shady maneuvers made in the FSF for him to be reelected. It's clear he's not willing to acknowledge his errors and, at this point, he actively damages the reputation of the FSF and the Free Software movement he helped found. He should know better. I am bad with social cues. I put myself in awkward situations. But I know better. And, more important, if someone tells me I need to change, I'll work on that.
- alacombe 6y ago
  He has opinions, having opinions shouldn't lead to your cancellation. Arguing 13 years old (which is the legal age of consent in Japan, btw) are old enough to consent for sex is akin to arguing that a 6 year old can consent for sex reassignment surgery, yet, one is acceptable, not the other one. Go figure out why... Btw, this is the same as Chomsky having been cancelled in France in the early 80's. Just because Chomsky made an argument against historical truth being set by law doesn't make him a supporter of Robert Faurisson's theories.
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    Stallman said pedophilia means before puberty. He wasn't talking about 13 year olds. I've never seen anyone advocate genital surgery at 6. The standard of care for 6 year olds is just treating them like the gender they say they are.

core-questions 6y ago

Yeah, that's the long and the short of it. RMS has had fantastic ideas, and I think he generally cares quite a bit about humanity, but the guy is weird, and people don't seem to be willing to put up with that brand of weird. (You can be plenty of other sorts of weird and not be cancelled, of course, making the whole thing quite arbitrary....)

alacombe 6y ago
> (You can be plenty of other sorts of weird and not be cancelled, of course, making the whole thing quite arbitrary....) ... and you just summarized everything wrong with the current bs going on. You've got to be the right kind of weird to fit in their narrative, everybody else is gonna be cancelled. "The pot calling the kettle black" they used to say... Today's puritans are no better than yesterday's.
- xref 6y ago
  You just hand-waived sexual harassment away as not “the right kind of weird” and speaking out against a serial perpetrator of it as “Puritanism”
klyrs 6y ago
The "weird" in question is perpetual harassment of women. As in, doing harm to individuals in our community. Granted, He has had fantastic ideas... but has he been contributing fantastic ideas to the GCC steering committee in the last decade? What's he actually bringing to the table that offsets the harm that he causes? And FWIW, I think he's cute and I've never been on a second date with a guy who wasn't socially awkward.

rbanffy 6y ago

This is not about his poor hygiene or his rudeness. This is about his misogyny, him not recognizing other people's work, him making women uncomfortable in person, his earlier normalization of paedophilia, his half-hearted apologies and whatever shady maneuvers made in the FSF for him to be reelected. It's clear he's not willing to acknowledge his errors and, at this point, he actively damages the reputation of the FSF and the Free Software movement he helped found. He should know better. I am bad with social cues. I put myself in awkward situations. But I know better. And, more important, if someone tells me I need to change, I'll work on that.

alacombe 6y ago
He has opinions, having opinions shouldn't lead to your cancellation. Arguing 13 years old (which is the legal age of consent in Japan, btw) are old enough to consent for sex is akin to arguing that a 6 year old can consent for sex reassignment surgery, yet, one is acceptable, not the other one. Go figure out why... Btw, this is the same as Chomsky having been cancelled in France in the early 80's. Just because Chomsky made an argument against historical truth being set by law doesn't make him a supporter of Robert Faurisson's theories.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Stallman said pedophilia means before puberty. He wasn't talking about 13 year olds. I've never seen anyone advocate genital surgery at 6. The standard of care for 6 year olds is just treating them like the gender they say they are.