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Congratulations to Fairphone. This sounds like a massive task especially for such a small team. I run a Fairphone 3 and I couldn't be happier. Sure it was on th

by nanna 6y ago

Congratulations to Fairphone. This sounds like a massive task especially for such a small team. I run a Fairphone 3 and I couldn't be happier. Sure it was on the pricy side but it's served me well, takes great photos, has survived numerous drops (the phone protector shipped with it is great), looks cool,strikes up interesting conversations now and then, and will apparently have Android updates well into the future. Fairphone's a great company shipping a great product. Well worth the investment!

luckylion 6y ago
How happy are you with the audio quality? I've been reading about issues with echoes on coip connections that seem to have been plaguing some people for quite some time. I dislike the cell phone audio quality by itself, but additional echoes would be a complete show stopper for me.
- nanna 6y ago
  Really can't say I've experienced anything like this at all. Audio has always worked fine for me.
imiric 6y ago
It's a decent device, but feels several generations behind any mid-range phone released in 2019. The screen has color blurring when scrolling especially visible with text, the fingerprint reader often doesn't get a good read, and it's noticeably sluggish in everyday tasks. I justified the higher price to support their vision, not because it's a great daily driver, but it serves well as a backup phone with /e/OS. The cameras can be upgraded to the 3+ ones, so it's great that it's the only truly modular and DIY repairable device on the market. I wish that a chipset swap and upgrade would be possible though. Google's Project Ara was interesting, but it was probably infeasible, and the technology might not be there yet.
- nanna 6y ago
  I'll admit I'm not someone who really follows phone developments closely enough to disagree. What you say is the standard review of FFs, that it costs more and is technically inferior. But then again I believe it costs what a fairly sourced and built phone costs. Other phones are too cheap. > The screen has color blurring when scrolling especially visible with text Mine doesnt > the fingerprint reader often doesn't get a good read I don't make a habit of volunteering biometric data near Google, so can't comment. > it's noticeably sluggish in everyday tasks. Not sure what everyday tasks you mean? Haven't ever really noticed it being sluggish? HN is snappy as hell :) > The cameras can be upgraded to the 3+ ones I didn't know, thanks!
- the_pwner224 6y ago
  > The screen has color blurring when scrolling especially visible with text This was a big issue on my Samsung Galaxy S9 (2-3 years old flagship), OnePlus 7 Pro (2 years old flagship), and Google Pixel 5 (8 month old flagship). Those are all AMOLED so it's not an issue in normal mode black text on white background, but with dark themes scrolling makes the text look really bad, and it's even worse at low brightness.
- bartvk 6y ago
  > it's noticeably sluggish in everyday tasks. I'm not a fan of statements like this. They really should be qualified further, because the Fairphone project deserves thoughtful critique. What exactly is sluggish? Scrolling in the mail app? Tapping links when browsing over cellular? Opening the app drawer?
  - Vinnl 6y ago
    I'm writing this on a Fairphone 2, and even that I wouldn't describe as sluggish. Scrolling, tapping links, opening the app drawer - everything responds to my touches directly. I'm sure newer phones are significantly faster, and heavier workloads can probably feel a bit janky (I don't usually have those), but phones haven't been sluggish the way pre-SSD computers could be for quite a while now.
  - imiric 6y ago
    Scrolling in the RedReader and Materialistic apps, loading images in the built-in viewer, opening links in the built-in or external browser, and many more regular tasks have noticeable hitches and are not as responsive as on other devices of the same era. Granted, I'm comparing this to a OnePlus 5T with a more powerful chipset, but I also think the screen itself is not as responsive to touch input which adds to the slowness perception. It reminds me of the way Android devices responded before Google's Project Butter, so seeing it in a modern $500 mid-range device from 2019 is underwhelming. None of these are dealbreakers and the phone is perfectly usable, but together with the other (bigger IMO) issues it adds up to a lackluster experience.

by nanna 6y ago

luckylion 6y ago

How happy are you with the audio quality? I've been reading about issues with echoes on coip connections that seem to have been plaguing some people for quite some time. I dislike the cell phone audio quality by itself, but additional echoes would be a complete show stopper for me.

nanna 6y ago
Really can't say I've experienced anything like this at all. Audio has always worked fine for me.

imiric 6y ago

It's a decent device, but feels several generations behind any mid-range phone released in 2019. The screen has color blurring when scrolling especially visible with text, the fingerprint reader often doesn't get a good read, and it's noticeably sluggish in everyday tasks. I justified the higher price to support their vision, not because it's a great daily driver, but it serves well as a backup phone with /e/OS. The cameras can be upgraded to the 3+ ones, so it's great that it's the only truly modular and DIY repairable device on the market. I wish that a chipset swap and upgrade would be possible though. Google's Project Ara was interesting, but it was probably infeasible, and the technology might not be there yet.

nanna 6y ago
I'll admit I'm not someone who really follows phone developments closely enough to disagree. What you say is the standard review of FFs, that it costs more and is technically inferior. But then again I believe it costs what a fairly sourced and built phone costs. Other phones are too cheap. > The screen has color blurring when scrolling especially visible with text Mine doesnt > the fingerprint reader often doesn't get a good read I don't make a habit of volunteering biometric data near Google, so can't comment. > it's noticeably sluggish in everyday tasks. Not sure what everyday tasks you mean? Haven't ever really noticed it being sluggish? HN is snappy as hell :) > The cameras can be upgraded to the 3+ ones I didn't know, thanks!
the_pwner224 6y ago
> The screen has color blurring when scrolling especially visible with text This was a big issue on my Samsung Galaxy S9 (2-3 years old flagship), OnePlus 7 Pro (2 years old flagship), and Google Pixel 5 (8 month old flagship). Those are all AMOLED so it's not an issue in normal mode black text on white background, but with dark themes scrolling makes the text look really bad, and it's even worse at low brightness.
bartvk 6y ago
> it's noticeably sluggish in everyday tasks. I'm not a fan of statements like this. They really should be qualified further, because the Fairphone project deserves thoughtful critique. What exactly is sluggish? Scrolling in the mail app? Tapping links when browsing over cellular? Opening the app drawer?
- Vinnl 6y ago
  I'm writing this on a Fairphone 2, and even that I wouldn't describe as sluggish. Scrolling, tapping links, opening the app drawer - everything responds to my touches directly. I'm sure newer phones are significantly faster, and heavier workloads can probably feel a bit janky (I don't usually have those), but phones haven't been sluggish the way pre-SSD computers could be for quite a while now.
- imiric 6y ago
  Scrolling in the RedReader and Materialistic apps, loading images in the built-in viewer, opening links in the built-in or external browser, and many more regular tasks have noticeable hitches and are not as responsive as on other devices of the same era. Granted, I'm comparing this to a OnePlus 5T with a more powerful chipset, but I also think the screen itself is not as responsive to touch input which adds to the slowness perception. It reminds me of the way Android devices responded before Google's Project Butter, so seeing it in a modern $500 mid-range device from 2019 is underwhelming. None of these are dealbreakers and the phone is perfectly usable, but together with the other (bigger IMO) issues it adds up to a lackluster experience.