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That insane memory leak for Safari in the new Reddit design is insane though, so I use Brave. You get up to 1GB+ RAM usage in just 5 - 8 minutes and it just kee

by imbnwa 6y ago

That insane memory leak for Safari in the new Reddit design is insane though, so I use Brave. You get up to 1GB+ RAM usage in just 5 - 8 minutes and it just keeps going from there. I don't prefer old.reddit.com because the left-aligned design is annnoying. If you're a Reddit engineer, what is the deal there?

smoldesu 6y ago
> If you're a Reddit engineer, what is the deal there? Maybe what you meant to say is, "if you're an Apple engineer, what's the deal here?" It sounds like it isn't an issue on other browsers, which means the issue likely falls squarely in Apple's camp. Especially considering that Safari makes memory management the kernel's problem, I fail to see a way in which a "Reddit engineer" could be responsible for not knowing how to work around an undocumented interface.
- imbnwa 6y ago
  > Maybe what you meant to say is, "if you're an Apple engineer, what's the deal here?" Perhaps, but this isn't a problem for old.reddit.com, so there's a business decision being made to not consider the value of the redesign/re-implementation if Apple's desktop brower is completely un-usable for the app. Moreover, if Reddit is aware of this, why isn't there a banner or an alert indicating "Hey, Apple's memory management in Safari is shit and they won't help, can you use a different browser for an optimal experience?", but that's not the case. Obviously they wouldn't word the banner like that but you get the idea. It's questionable that Reddit would lie the blame on Apple's feet but don't communicate this to users Either way you play it there's horrendous UX going on on Reddit's part
  - smoldesu 6y ago
    >It's questionable that Reddit would lie the blame on Apple's feet but don't communicate this to users The user doesn't care. Putting up a banner to tell people to switch browsers because of memory constraints is an even worse UX decision, so there's no straight path forwards here. For what it's worth, visiting Reddit on mobile will urge you to use the app instead, likely with performance issues in mind. >Either way you play it there's horrendous UX going on on Reddit's part Not... really? You'd have to do some pretty immense mental gymnastics to claim that it's Reddit's fault for making a site compatible with every browser but Apple's. Furthermore, I also have a hard time imagining how you'd blame Reddit for causing a memory leak that should be managed by the kernel in the first place. Best case scenario, this is an issue inherited from MacOS's BSD heritage, what with the lazy memory management and lack of virtualization. Worst case scenario, Apple is consciously ignoring their incompatibility, with hopes that WebKit will somehow become the new standard for web browisng. I won't cut and dry it for you, but I don't see a point on that spectrum where it's somehow Reddit's fault all of the sudden.

by imbnwa 6y ago

smoldesu 6y ago

> If you're a Reddit engineer, what is the deal there? Maybe what you meant to say is, "if you're an Apple engineer, what's the deal here?" It sounds like it isn't an issue on other browsers, which means the issue likely falls squarely in Apple's camp. Especially considering that Safari makes memory management the kernel's problem, I fail to see a way in which a "Reddit engineer" could be responsible for not knowing how to work around an undocumented interface.

imbnwa 6y ago
> Maybe what you meant to say is, "if you're an Apple engineer, what's the deal here?" Perhaps, but this isn't a problem for old.reddit.com, so there's a business decision being made to not consider the value of the redesign/re-implementation if Apple's desktop brower is completely un-usable for the app. Moreover, if Reddit is aware of this, why isn't there a banner or an alert indicating "Hey, Apple's memory management in Safari is shit and they won't help, can you use a different browser for an optimal experience?", but that's not the case. Obviously they wouldn't word the banner like that but you get the idea. It's questionable that Reddit would lie the blame on Apple's feet but don't communicate this to users Either way you play it there's horrendous UX going on on Reddit's part
- smoldesu 6y ago
  >It's questionable that Reddit would lie the blame on Apple's feet but don't communicate this to users The user doesn't care. Putting up a banner to tell people to switch browsers because of memory constraints is an even worse UX decision, so there's no straight path forwards here. For what it's worth, visiting Reddit on mobile will urge you to use the app instead, likely with performance issues in mind. >Either way you play it there's horrendous UX going on on Reddit's part Not... really? You'd have to do some pretty immense mental gymnastics to claim that it's Reddit's fault for making a site compatible with every browser but Apple's. Furthermore, I also have a hard time imagining how you'd blame Reddit for causing a memory leak that should be managed by the kernel in the first place. Best case scenario, this is an issue inherited from MacOS's BSD heritage, what with the lazy memory management and lack of virtualization. Worst case scenario, Apple is consciously ignoring their incompatibility, with hopes that WebKit will somehow become the new standard for web browisng. I won't cut and dry it for you, but I don't see a point on that spectrum where it's somehow Reddit's fault all of the sudden.