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Agreed, just making sure people know. It would be nice to see people self host chat so that their data is truly theirs. I tried in the past to move people to

Agreed, just making sure people know. It would be nice to see people self host chat so that their data is truly theirs. I tried in the past to move people to Mumble but it was a non starter. Maybe when M$ takes over Discord some small pockets of people will move. I predict all the "lewd" groups will be purged at some point.

rolph 6y ago
>> It would be nice to see people self host chat so that their data is truly theirs<< it would also be nice to see a simple peer to peer chat server solution, something that looks and feels like ~messangerperhaps but runs more like an IRC. peer server chaining would be a good feature. [addndm] if each instance was capable of maintaining 2 peers then that would be a relay, or 3 peers then each one could function to route packets among peers
BoysenberryPi 6y ago
Mumble is not an alternative to Discord and I don't know why people think it is.
- LinuxBender 6y ago
  You are correct. It is just the closest thing I know of that can be self hosted. Jitsi is much more complicated. Definitely open to new ideas. FWIW the cpu load and voice quality are a bit better on Mumble, but the UI/UX is inferior for most people that are used to Discord and there is no screen sharing. Jitsi can do screen sharing but it is a much more involved setup that I don't foresee many people doing.
  - BoysenberryPi 6y ago
    Element is probably the closest thing to Discord for people who want to self-host. https://element.io/ https://element.io/
    - LinuxBender 6y ago
      I am probably looking in the wrong place. The only self hosted option I see is to buy the Platinum plan. [1] Is there an unrestricted community edition on github? [1] - https://element.io/pricing https://element.io/pricing
      - pixxel 6y ago
        https://element.io/open-source https://element.io/open-source
        LinuxBender 6y ago
        That lists a web UI. Is Element just a front-end to Matrix much like TheLounge [1] is a web front-end to IRC? If so, then you would first have to set up a self hosted Matrix server. Not a big deal really but getting people to set these up and plumb them together is probably just enough friction to prevent migration. [1] - https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge

rolph 6y ago

>> It would be nice to see people self host chat so that their data is truly theirs<< it would also be nice to see a simple peer to peer chat server solution, something that looks and feels like ~messangerperhaps but runs more like an IRC. peer server chaining would be a good feature. [addndm] if each instance was capable of maintaining 2 peers then that would be a relay, or 3 peers then each one could function to route packets among peers

BoysenberryPi 6y ago

Mumble is not an alternative to Discord and I don't know why people think it is.

LinuxBender 6y ago
You are correct. It is just the closest thing I know of that can be self hosted. Jitsi is much more complicated. Definitely open to new ideas. FWIW the cpu load and voice quality are a bit better on Mumble, but the UI/UX is inferior for most people that are used to Discord and there is no screen sharing. Jitsi can do screen sharing but it is a much more involved setup that I don't foresee many people doing.
- BoysenberryPi 6y ago
  Element is probably the closest thing to Discord for people who want to self-host. https://element.io/ https://element.io/
  - LinuxBender 6y ago
    I am probably looking in the wrong place. The only self hosted option I see is to buy the Platinum plan. [1] Is there an unrestricted community edition on github? [1] - https://element.io/pricing https://element.io/pricing
    - pixxel 6y ago
      https://element.io/open-source https://element.io/open-source
      - LinuxBender 6y ago
        That lists a web UI. Is Element just a front-end to Matrix much like TheLounge [1] is a web front-end to IRC? If so, then you would first have to set up a self hosted Matrix server. Not a big deal really but getting people to set these up and plumb them together is probably just enough friction to prevent migration. [1] - https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge