> The fact that Western countries aren't spending billions to comprehensively subvert the Great Firewall is a significant strategic failure. I have strong opin

> The fact that Western countries aren't spending billions to comprehensively subvert the Great Firewall is a significant strategic failure. I have strong opinions in this matter. The GFW is only possible because of metadata leaks that Western countries are exploiting too, for security and surveillance, or whatever. Suppose Western countries start investing billions in subverting the Golden Shield, our own infrastructure and economy would suffer too. A very naive but simple example: I tried to train https://github.com/Kkevsterrr/geneva https://github.com/Kkevsterrr/geneva against a CheckPoint and a Fortinet ... It's not been fun for those "next gen firewalls", and CheckPoint is a NASDAQ-100, Fortinet an S&P 500.