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There's no debate over whether or not the big boat is stuck Is a ship blocking the Suez Canal worse fodder for debate than Earth being round? As I type this p

There's no debate over whether or not the big boat is stuck Is a ship blocking the Suez Canal worse fodder for debate than Earth being round? As I type this people are probably out there on Facebook or Reddit or 4chan explaining the truth behind the 'Suez Canal Boat Hoax'

laurent92 6y ago
You make a good point: He’s discussing how pleasant it is to have fact-based facts. All the other facts are politicized, and require reverse-minding, and it’s tiring. But the cognitive dissonance is entirely created by having people denying a fact. Some people say “Let’s take revenge on X because of ideology Y”, a person P says “I’m going to take revenge on X”, P commits planned murder, someone says “He did it because X” and the AFP (or AP) issues a fact-check saying it is not true (generally because the link between X, Y and P is not established, and sometimes using other arguments like statistical insignificance or because he’s himself a victim of Y, therefore Y made him do it involuntarily). Other examples such as “Women are the primary victims of wars because men die a lot.” It takes a mental toll to accept both the idea that men are primary victims and not primary victims. Our world is full of this. These sorts of shenanigans create side-effect that annoy you such as Facebook, Reddit and 4chan. But you all agree around the same problem: The politicization of facts makes that they get twisted into their opposite, and cognitive dissonance is very tiring.
fogihujy 6y ago
I was dumb enough to check, and there's plenty of conspiracy theories around this, the more common ones apparently being about this leading to "The Great Reset". None seem to deny the fact that the ship is stuck though; they just claim it was done deliberately. I must say, it is nice to have something that even the conspiracy nuts agree on. :D
- Theory5 6y ago
  But reducing it down to a basic fact exists in all of these. We agree the boat is stuck. We agree an election took place in the US. We agree there is an Earth. But yes, regardless it is still nice to just say: The boat is stuck. And everyone agrees.

laurent92 6y ago

You make a good point: He’s discussing how pleasant it is to have fact-based facts. All the other facts are politicized, and require reverse-minding, and it’s tiring. But the cognitive dissonance is entirely created by having people denying a fact. Some people say “Let’s take revenge on X because of ideology Y”, a person P says “I’m going to take revenge on X”, P commits planned murder, someone says “He did it because X” and the AFP (or AP) issues a fact-check saying it is not true (generally because the link between X, Y and P is not established, and sometimes using other arguments like statistical insignificance or because he’s himself a victim of Y, therefore Y made him do it involuntarily). Other examples such as “Women are the primary victims of wars because men die a lot.” It takes a mental toll to accept both the idea that men are primary victims and not primary victims. Our world is full of this. These sorts of shenanigans create side-effect that annoy you such as Facebook, Reddit and 4chan. But you all agree around the same problem: The politicization of facts makes that they get twisted into their opposite, and cognitive dissonance is very tiring.

fogihujy 6y ago

I was dumb enough to check, and there's plenty of conspiracy theories around this, the more common ones apparently being about this leading to "The Great Reset". None seem to deny the fact that the ship is stuck though; they just claim it was done deliberately. I must say, it is nice to have something that even the conspiracy nuts agree on. :D

Theory5 6y ago
But reducing it down to a basic fact exists in all of these. We agree the boat is stuck. We agree an election took place in the US. We agree there is an Earth. But yes, regardless it is still nice to just say: The boat is stuck. And everyone agrees.