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Disagree with this... it has been thoroughly acknowledged with regretful apologies. There comes a time for healing so everyone can move forward. Plus, I don't k

by warent 6y ago

Disagree with this... it has been thoroughly acknowledged with regretful apologies. There comes a time for healing so everyone can move forward. Plus, I don't know Alan Turing but it seems unlikely he would have wanted to be remembered for that.

madaxe_again 6y ago
They did not apologise. They pardoned him, and other gay men convicted historically - which implies that they committed a crime, requiring a pardon, rather than the government acknowledging that its stance was wrong.
- Veen 6y ago
  You are misinformed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-alan-turing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-...
  - sneak 6y ago
    > Acknowledging the strength of feeling, Brown wrote: "Thousands of people have come together to demand justice for Alan Turing and recognition of the appalling way he was treated. While Turing was dealt with under the law of the time and we can't put the clock back, his treatment was of course utterly unfair and I am pleased to have the chance to say how deeply sorry I and we all are for what happened to him. I'm not sure that "dealt with under the law of the time" rings quite the way it should. The fact that that was even mentioned is disgusting to me. They did apologize, however, although a lot of that seems to hinge on his brilliance and the fact that he may have caused them to win the war, which IMO shouldn't factor in to their apology at all. Where are the apologies to all of the others they tortured in this manner who aren't war heroes? What else are they doing to make this right besides talking?
    - brigandish 6y ago
      > I'm not sure that "dealt with under the law of the time" rings quite the way it should. If legislators can't show respect for rule of law and faith in the electoral process then I don't know who can.
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- string 6y ago
  The prime minister issued an apology over a decade ago. Please stop spreading misinformation. You may feel passionate about an issue for whatever reason, that's not an excuse to lie. https://blog.jgc.org/2011/07/complete-text-of-gordon-browns-apology.html https://blog.jgc.org/2011/07/complete-text-of-gordon-browns-...

by warent 6y ago

madaxe_again 6y ago

They did not apologise. They pardoned him, and other gay men convicted historically - which implies that they committed a crime, requiring a pardon, rather than the government acknowledging that its stance was wrong.

Veen 6y ago
You are misinformed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-alan-turing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-...
- sneak 6y ago
  > Acknowledging the strength of feeling, Brown wrote: "Thousands of people have come together to demand justice for Alan Turing and recognition of the appalling way he was treated. While Turing was dealt with under the law of the time and we can't put the clock back, his treatment was of course utterly unfair and I am pleased to have the chance to say how deeply sorry I and we all are for what happened to him. I'm not sure that "dealt with under the law of the time" rings quite the way it should. The fact that that was even mentioned is disgusting to me. They did apologize, however, although a lot of that seems to hinge on his brilliance and the fact that he may have caused them to win the war, which IMO shouldn't factor in to their apology at all. Where are the apologies to all of the others they tortured in this manner who aren't war heroes? What else are they doing to make this right besides talking?
  - brigandish 6y ago
    > I'm not sure that "dealt with under the law of the time" rings quite the way it should. If legislators can't show respect for rule of law and faith in the electoral process then I don't know who can.
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string 6y ago
The prime minister issued an apology over a decade ago. Please stop spreading misinformation. You may feel passionate about an issue for whatever reason, that's not an excuse to lie. https://blog.jgc.org/2011/07/complete-text-of-gordon-browns-apology.html https://blog.jgc.org/2011/07/complete-text-of-gordon-browns-...