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Algorithms aside, I just found out that one of the victims in the Colorado shooting was an Instacart shopper. It hit me real hard thinking that the app user wh

Algorithms aside, I just found out that one of the victims in the Colorado shooting was an Instacart shopper. It hit me real hard thinking that the app user who made the Instacart order never knew why their order was late and may have even gotten upset and asked for a refund, not having the slightest idea about the tragedy that happened behind the scenes, or the risk to their own life had they gone shopping themselves that day instead of ordering online. "The mother of two was at the supermarket filling an Instacart order, something she did in retirement to help others, he told the newspaper." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/03/23/boulder-shooting-victims-colorado-identified-eric-talley/6964265002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/03/23/boulde...

gigatexal 6y ago
Yeah definitely tragic. Condolences to her family. I wish I had the answer to gun violence in America :(
- curiousgal 6y ago
  'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_To_Prevent_This,%27_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_To_Prevent_This,%2...
  - gigatexal 6y ago
    I’m not making any value or policy judgments. Anyone who understands a bit of American politics knows how hard the pro-gun lobby fights anything related to curbing gun ownership. I was merely saying that as an American it saddens me that there are all these senseless killings and that I’m not all that hopeful that real change is possible. Maybe I’m a glass half empty kind of guy I dunno.
    - zikzak 6y ago
      It's time for the adults to take care of this. I understand the deeply embedded gun culture and stockpiles. But what would you do if you found out porcelain toilets were killing people at this rate? You'd ban them and start programs to subsidize replacements. No, no, actually you'd have a significant percentage of the country insisting you can have thier toilets when you pry them from thier cold, dead hands. I sincerely wish this wasn't the way it is. The problem is generational, I guess. We need to start today by making guns a subject of ridicule among young people by using stats and studies to show there is no net benefit.
      - jfengel 6y ago
        Facts and figures don't have a great track record of convincing people of things that they don't want to believe.
        zikzak 6y ago
        That may be true (ok, it is definitely true) but we have to start somewhere. I know a lot of people my age who grew up (like me!) in a house with guns and hunting that do not hunt or own guns. I don't even have anything against responsible gun owning and hunting. I am talking about getting people to understand that going beyond this (carrying a sidearm around all the time, keeping them in your car, thinking you can be Clint Eastwood when you get mugged, etc) all lead to people dying on purpose or accidentally at far higher rates than if we just didn't do this stuff. Gun OWNERSHIP is not the problem. Tons of households in countries all over the world have guns in them. You simply don't see the same level of gun death as in the US. It is because of their culture (e.g. compulsory military service - I'm not a fan but you will learn how to responsibly own and house a firearm and when you could reasonably expect it to be a useful tool vs something that will go off and kill your kid or be stolen and used in a crime later). Rant over, sorry, I get emotional when I think about this having been mugged at gun point with a pistol that was undoubtedly stolen from a car glove compartment or something during a routine car break in (assumptions, but you know what I mean). I survived the encounter because I didn't try to fumble in my bag for some gun I barely know how to use (in fact the first thing they did was grab my bag and frisk every inch of me). It was a crew, they were all business, and they got me. I walked away with my house keys and my empty wallet (note, they did NOT steal my ID). So yeah, that sort of thing has happened to me and I still, somehow, don't have fantasies about shooting a bunch of teenagers. Call me crazy.
YoungWeb 6y ago
This is very sad.

gigatexal 6y ago

Yeah definitely tragic. Condolences to her family. I wish I had the answer to gun violence in America :(

curiousgal 6y ago
'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_To_Prevent_This,%27_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_To_Prevent_This,%2...
- gigatexal 6y ago
  I’m not making any value or policy judgments. Anyone who understands a bit of American politics knows how hard the pro-gun lobby fights anything related to curbing gun ownership. I was merely saying that as an American it saddens me that there are all these senseless killings and that I’m not all that hopeful that real change is possible. Maybe I’m a glass half empty kind of guy I dunno.
  - zikzak 6y ago
    It's time for the adults to take care of this. I understand the deeply embedded gun culture and stockpiles. But what would you do if you found out porcelain toilets were killing people at this rate? You'd ban them and start programs to subsidize replacements. No, no, actually you'd have a significant percentage of the country insisting you can have thier toilets when you pry them from thier cold, dead hands. I sincerely wish this wasn't the way it is. The problem is generational, I guess. We need to start today by making guns a subject of ridicule among young people by using stats and studies to show there is no net benefit.
    - jfengel 6y ago
      Facts and figures don't have a great track record of convincing people of things that they don't want to believe.
      - zikzak 6y ago
        That may be true (ok, it is definitely true) but we have to start somewhere. I know a lot of people my age who grew up (like me!) in a house with guns and hunting that do not hunt or own guns. I don't even have anything against responsible gun owning and hunting. I am talking about getting people to understand that going beyond this (carrying a sidearm around all the time, keeping them in your car, thinking you can be Clint Eastwood when you get mugged, etc) all lead to people dying on purpose or accidentally at far higher rates than if we just didn't do this stuff. Gun OWNERSHIP is not the problem. Tons of households in countries all over the world have guns in them. You simply don't see the same level of gun death as in the US. It is because of their culture (e.g. compulsory military service - I'm not a fan but you will learn how to responsibly own and house a firearm and when you could reasonably expect it to be a useful tool vs something that will go off and kill your kid or be stolen and used in a crime later). Rant over, sorry, I get emotional when I think about this having been mugged at gun point with a pistol that was undoubtedly stolen from a car glove compartment or something during a routine car break in (assumptions, but you know what I mean). I survived the encounter because I didn't try to fumble in my bag for some gun I barely know how to use (in fact the first thing they did was grab my bag and frisk every inch of me). It was a crew, they were all business, and they got me. I walked away with my house keys and my empty wallet (note, they did NOT steal my ID). So yeah, that sort of thing has happened to me and I still, somehow, don't have fantasies about shooting a bunch of teenagers. Call me crazy.

YoungWeb 6y ago

This is very sad.