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Depends if you can fill the outside with poles and the inside with sand. You can suck up the sand ( if it's even required, since normal dredging could be done

Depends if you can fill the outside with poles and the inside with sand. You can suck up the sand ( if it's even required, since normal dredging could be done afterwards) before you destroy the construction again. If it's surrounded by poles, then you just take them out again on the end. The construction on land can be cleaned up afterwards.

Alupis 6y ago
The canal is a minimum of 80 feet deep and over 254 feet wide (a lot wider actually, 254ft is the max boat beam it can handle). It's a little bigger of an issue than dropping some telephone-pole sized rods into the canal. It's one of the most highly trafficked canals in the world, I'm certain if the solution was this simple they would already be doing it.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  Using traditional things ( eg. Cofferdams) for non-traditional uses ( raising water instead of lowering) aren't always considered by the same experts. The problems that I heard of till now are logistics and duration ( since it also has to be removed). None mentioned the depth/length since it is doable and had been done ( cofferdams, but with more planning ofc) It could have been more plausible if the problem was worse though.
  - nate_meurer 6y ago
    > Using traditional things ( eg. Cofferdams) for non-traditional uses ( raising water instead of lowering) aren't always considered by the same experts. True but I guarantee you that's not the case here. Any engineer who's familiar with canals will have coffer damns in the front of their mind, because that's exactly how locks work. And besides that, it is (forgive me), kinda obvious. I promise you the people working on this have thoroughly explored the possibility of raising the water level, probably by more means than you or I can guess.
    - NicoJuicy 6y ago
      Sometimes, obvious things have to be said first before it becomes obvious. I don't know if they'd raised the water with cofferdams before, i checked online and haven't seen an example ( didn't knew the term at first either). I also didn't see it proposed before or mentioned in any related articles. It's possible that it was done in the past and is a known thing among experts, but i can't really know that, can I?
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        I guess if you’re this convinced that you have uniquely thought up and proved this idea the only thing left is to phone them up and let them know you’ve got a solution ready to go! There’s a phone number on their website.
        NicoJuicy 6y ago
        Who said I'm convinced that i uniquely thought of that? What's wrong with you? This isn't your first demeaning comment. This is literally a place where people tend to discuss/propose things on and get feedback. HN can give a unique insight of commenters that ARE experts on the topic, even while the poster is not. Not many people here see issues with that.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        I think you’re the one demeaning the engineers working on it to be honest - saying you’re surprised they aren’t considering your idea. Likely so did everyone else downvoting you.
        NicoJuicy 6y ago
        I also said that the engineers would know better than me in the same comment. I've never claimed to be an expert and I've made that pretty obvious from the start. While my original comment could have been worded better, which I already admitted, your reactions aren't a work of art either. Calling it delusional and patronizing, while both methods were deemed feasible afterwards, for example. Take your pick. My intention was always to find out the variables surrounding it and how to make it work and I think most people probably realized that. ( the "badly" worded comment only received -2 fyi, it's just more than what I'm used too) PS. Some people also disagreed with your perception and told you literally to relax a bit. If you really want to go down that road... ( Didn't I already mention something about your demeaning comments just now?)

Alupis 6y ago

The canal is a minimum of 80 feet deep and over 254 feet wide (a lot wider actually, 254ft is the max boat beam it can handle). It's a little bigger of an issue than dropping some telephone-pole sized rods into the canal. It's one of the most highly trafficked canals in the world, I'm certain if the solution was this simple they would already be doing it.

NicoJuicy 6y ago
Using traditional things ( eg. Cofferdams) for non-traditional uses ( raising water instead of lowering) aren't always considered by the same experts. The problems that I heard of till now are logistics and duration ( since it also has to be removed). None mentioned the depth/length since it is doable and had been done ( cofferdams, but with more planning ofc) It could have been more plausible if the problem was worse though.
- nate_meurer 6y ago
  > Using traditional things ( eg. Cofferdams) for non-traditional uses ( raising water instead of lowering) aren't always considered by the same experts. True but I guarantee you that's not the case here. Any engineer who's familiar with canals will have coffer damns in the front of their mind, because that's exactly how locks work. And besides that, it is (forgive me), kinda obvious. I promise you the people working on this have thoroughly explored the possibility of raising the water level, probably by more means than you or I can guess.
  - NicoJuicy 6y ago
    Sometimes, obvious things have to be said first before it becomes obvious. I don't know if they'd raised the water with cofferdams before, i checked online and haven't seen an example ( didn't knew the term at first either). I also didn't see it proposed before or mentioned in any related articles. It's possible that it was done in the past and is a known thing among experts, but i can't really know that, can I?
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      I guess if you’re this convinced that you have uniquely thought up and proved this idea the only thing left is to phone them up and let them know you’ve got a solution ready to go! There’s a phone number on their website.
      - NicoJuicy 6y ago
        Who said I'm convinced that i uniquely thought of that? What's wrong with you? This isn't your first demeaning comment. This is literally a place where people tend to discuss/propose things on and get feedback. HN can give a unique insight of commenters that ARE experts on the topic, even while the poster is not. Not many people here see issues with that.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        I think you’re the one demeaning the engineers working on it to be honest - saying you’re surprised they aren’t considering your idea. Likely so did everyone else downvoting you.
        NicoJuicy 6y ago
        I also said that the engineers would know better than me in the same comment. I've never claimed to be an expert and I've made that pretty obvious from the start. While my original comment could have been worded better, which I already admitted, your reactions aren't a work of art either. Calling it delusional and patronizing, while both methods were deemed feasible afterwards, for example. Take your pick. My intention was always to find out the variables surrounding it and how to make it work and I think most people probably realized that. ( the "badly" worded comment only received -2 fyi, it's just more than what I'm used too) PS. Some people also disagreed with your perception and told you literally to relax a bit. If you really want to go down that road... ( Didn't I already mention something about your demeaning comments just now?)