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This is a made-up problem, right? The language migth be "native", but the alphabet isn't - hən̓q̓əmín̓əm̓ k̓ʷə́yecən - obviously it's derived from "foreign" (

by tomp 6y ago

This is a made-up problem, right? The language migth be "native", but the alphabet isn't - hən̓q̓əmín̓əm̓ k̓ʷə́yecən - obviously it's derived from "foreign" (Latin) alphabet. Nothing "local" about it. They could just as easily pick a few different letters to transliterate the language to...

whimsicalism 6y ago
Sure, the written language is Latin derived (as are most native american written languages). But that could have occurred a hundred years ago, I don't see how that makes it a "made-up" problem. Take, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_syllabary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_syllabary , for instance
- Rule35 6y ago
  That's the difference between an indigenous language and not. The goal of recognizing the UN resolution wasn't that anything an indigenous person wants has to be accommodated, but that indigenous traditions must be recognized and allowed. Otherwise a native could learn Lojban and force the government to recognize it.
Barrin92 6y ago
If anything the 'made up problem' here is that a bureaucracy is effectively stamping out a culture or part of a culture from engaging in business, due to a legibility problem in a computer system. Think about how profoundly strange this is. An entire traditional human way of expression is closed off to a people because the administrators of the city cannot handle to input a bunch of characters into a machine. I'm truly fascinated that people seem to think the sane response to this is to defer to the word processor
Causality1 6y ago
It's a tragedy, but the fact is the language is already dead and they're Weekend at Bernie's-ing it to generate press coverage. Having to use a legal name that isn't identical to the actual name of your business is a minor inconvenience that people have been dealing with for decades if not centuries.

by tomp 6y ago

whimsicalism 6y ago

Sure, the written language is Latin derived (as are most native american written languages). But that could have occurred a hundred years ago, I don't see how that makes it a "made-up" problem. Take, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_syllabary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_syllabary , for instance

Rule35 6y ago
That's the difference between an indigenous language and not. The goal of recognizing the UN resolution wasn't that anything an indigenous person wants has to be accommodated, but that indigenous traditions must be recognized and allowed. Otherwise a native could learn Lojban and force the government to recognize it.

Barrin92 6y ago

If anything the 'made up problem' here is that a bureaucracy is effectively stamping out a culture or part of a culture from engaging in business, due to a legibility problem in a computer system. Think about how profoundly strange this is. An entire traditional human way of expression is closed off to a people because the administrators of the city cannot handle to input a bunch of characters into a machine. I'm truly fascinated that people seem to think the sane response to this is to defer to the word processor

Causality1 6y ago

It's a tragedy, but the fact is the language is already dead and they're Weekend at Bernie's-ing it to generate press coverage. Having to use a legal name that isn't identical to the actual name of your business is a minor inconvenience that people have been dealing with for decades if not centuries.