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This is maddening. Related: Did you know in California, your name can't have accents? You know, like the ´ and ˜ in Spanish. Good thing there aren't any Hispani

This is maddening. Related: Did you know in California, your name can't have accents? You know, like the ´ and ˜ in Spanish. Good thing there aren't any Hispanic folks there. /s People, design your systems to conform to reality. Don't make other people bend to fit your lazy design. Yes, it will be more complicated. Yes, it will be more work. Tough noogies. That's what you signed up for.

nerdponx 6y ago
Yet the system already exists. Yes, it was either badly designed or designed before the relevant technology was available (e.g. UTF-8). Yes, replacing it with a system that works properly is an important long-term project. What are you going to do, sue the state to divert funding from important social programs so they can accommodate accents in their database?
- aksss 6y ago
  Is this where we just triggered a recursive "think of the children" exchange like email auto-replies responding to each other ad-infinitum? :D
anthk 6y ago
The Spanish tilde (actually a stress mark) is part of the French code too. No idea about "ñ", but Breton has it.
mistrial9 6y ago
I wrote extensive app logic using utf-8, trial-by-fire ? commercial use of the app in Thailand (I'm American) - it was well-received. I fully support educational applications in utf-8 by default, and educational principles for all people at all skill levels in almost every case. BUT parent comment blurs important distinctions in the rush to lecture the software developers of the world. As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, legal documents are not the same as educational material, and territory is not universally multi-lingual based on a whim.
neolog 6y ago
Different people can call you by different names. Same with companies and governments. It's not like the name the government addresses you by is your real name.
- Marsymars 6y ago
  Exactly this. My name has an accent in it. My legal name doesn’t, but I, not the government, am the arbiter of what my real name is.
akalsz 6y ago
I don't really get the outrage, I've always been perfectly fine being addressed by the government and other organizations without the diacritics in my name. In fact I far prefer that to their placement being mixed up by human error (or a wrong diacritical mark being used, etc).

nerdponx 6y ago

Yet the system already exists. Yes, it was either badly designed or designed before the relevant technology was available (e.g. UTF-8). Yes, replacing it with a system that works properly is an important long-term project. What are you going to do, sue the state to divert funding from important social programs so they can accommodate accents in their database?

aksss 6y ago
Is this where we just triggered a recursive "think of the children" exchange like email auto-replies responding to each other ad-infinitum? :D

anthk 6y ago

The Spanish tilde (actually a stress mark) is part of the French code too. No idea about "ñ", but Breton has it.

mistrial9 6y ago

I wrote extensive app logic using utf-8, trial-by-fire ? commercial use of the app in Thailand (I'm American) - it was well-received. I fully support educational applications in utf-8 by default, and educational principles for all people at all skill levels in almost every case. BUT parent comment blurs important distinctions in the rush to lecture the software developers of the world. As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, legal documents are not the same as educational material, and territory is not universally multi-lingual based on a whim.

neolog 6y ago

Different people can call you by different names. Same with companies and governments. It's not like the name the government addresses you by is your real name.

Marsymars 6y ago
Exactly this. My name has an accent in it. My legal name doesn’t, but I, not the government, am the arbiter of what my real name is.

akalsz 6y ago

I don't really get the outrage, I've always been perfectly fine being addressed by the government and other organizations without the diacritics in my name. In fact I far prefer that to their placement being mixed up by human error (or a wrong diacritical mark being used, etc).