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Does anybody work for Atlassian here? If so, can you please share this with the Confluence team? Thanks...

by denysvitali 6y ago

bigtones 6y ago
And the Jira team
- 12ian34 6y ago
  JQL really isn't that bad is it?
  - fteem 6y ago
    Not bad - horrible.
    - 12ian34 6y ago
      What's horrible about it? The syntax is very straightforward
      - theamk 6y ago
        Not around text field searches. Something as simple as searching for exact fragment with punctuation (think function header) often does not work at all.
tyingq 6y ago
If you want to feel extra sad about it, see this: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-13499 https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-13499
- nova22033 6y ago
  If a wiki page has the word adrecordset, a search on recordset should include the page. Currently only a search on adrecordset or a search with wildcards returns the page. Wait..this seems unreasonable? Isn't this how it works with elasticsearch or solr? or even google for that matter..a search for green won't return evergreen..
  - tyingq 6y ago
    They don't support leading wildcards. So foo* will find foobar but *bar won't find foobar. Elastic does fine with that as of 7.9.
    - denysvitali 6y ago
      Well, in my experience they cannot even find URLs, IP addresses, or wildcarded words like foo*
boyter 6y ago
Do people really find the search in confluence that bad? Would they actually be willing to pay to have it fixed?
- denysvitali 6y ago
  I wouldn't pay to fix it, Confluence isn't free. There are a lot of Open Source alternatives that provide such features out of the box. It's the only feature that shouldn't be broken. I really hate Confluence nowadays (and I really liked in the past, when I was using it randomly): - Counter productive syntax that is not even equal to the one of Jira - Search functionality that cannot find anything (I spend HOURS trying to find my content, let alone somebody else's). Some days I just wish I had the DB at hand / a folder with the whole pages exported to grep it myself. - Proprietary file format - good luck migrating away from it I'm really sad to say these things, I like Atlassian as a company but the more I use Atlassian products, the more I realize they're bloated and have _broken_ features that were implemented quickly just to tick some more boxes on their features sheet.

Does anybody work for Atlassian here? If so, can you please share this with the Confluence team? Thanks...

bigtones 6y ago

And the Jira team

12ian34 6y ago
JQL really isn't that bad is it?
- fteem 6y ago
  Not bad - horrible.
  - 12ian34 6y ago
    What's horrible about it? The syntax is very straightforward
    - theamk 6y ago
      Not around text field searches. Something as simple as searching for exact fragment with punctuation (think function header) often does not work at all.

tyingq 6y ago

If you want to feel extra sad about it, see this: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-13499 https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-13499

nova22033 6y ago
If a wiki page has the word adrecordset, a search on recordset should include the page. Currently only a search on adrecordset or a search with wildcards returns the page. Wait..this seems unreasonable? Isn't this how it works with elasticsearch or solr? or even google for that matter..a search for green won't return evergreen..
- tyingq 6y ago
  They don't support leading wildcards. So foo* will find foobar but *bar won't find foobar. Elastic does fine with that as of 7.9.
  - denysvitali 6y ago
    Well, in my experience they cannot even find URLs, IP addresses, or wildcarded words like foo*

boyter 6y ago

Do people really find the search in confluence that bad? Would they actually be willing to pay to have it fixed?

denysvitali 6y ago
I wouldn't pay to fix it, Confluence isn't free. There are a lot of Open Source alternatives that provide such features out of the box. It's the only feature that shouldn't be broken. I really hate Confluence nowadays (and I really liked in the past, when I was using it randomly): - Counter productive syntax that is not even equal to the one of Jira - Search functionality that cannot find anything (I spend HOURS trying to find my content, let alone somebody else's). Some days I just wish I had the DB at hand / a folder with the whole pages exported to grep it myself. - Proprietary file format - good luck migrating away from it I'm really sad to say these things, I like Atlassian as a company but the more I use Atlassian products, the more I realize they're bloated and have _broken_ features that were implemented quickly just to tick some more boxes on their features sheet.