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"The science is settled!" Often uttered by people who should know better - or probably do but don't care because it's a politically expedient statement. Not a

by EricE 6y ago

"The science is settled!" Often uttered by people who should know better - or probably do but don't care because it's a politically expedient statement. Not a bad article, but the real elephant in the room these days is how to have a dissenting viewpoint and NOT get your carrier ruined.

Mountain_Skies 6y ago
As pushback continues to mount against this political behavior in science, those who created the environment, sensing a loss of power, will push more of these "can't we just get along" articles in an attempt to silence those pushing back against their bullying and political gamesmanship. Far beyond this situation, attacking and then suing for peace, then attacking and suing for peace, over and over again is a timeless battle tactic. Those who want to do science instead of engaging in political battles are easy targets for this tactic because they just want things to end so they can go back to research. Those who wield science as a sword for political purposes of course will take advantage of this weakness and the manipulation will never end by concession. If science journalists are serious about wanting peace, they can adopt a zero tolerance policy for politics in their content, including the passive aggressive writing that attempts to sneak in political attacks inside other content. But they won't because ultimately the politics are far more important than the science. If it were otherwise, they wouldn't have gotten into this situation in the first place.
philliphaydon 6y ago
The media is notorious for spreading “the science is settle”, and the reaction of the public to label anyone a denier if someone doesn’t think /exactly/ the same way, has ruined science for me.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  It shouldn't ruin science for you. It should ruin the media and the public for you.
  - philliphaydon 6y ago
    It’s ruined because look at climate change. While I think we can all agree that climate change is real. Science can’t agree. But if scientists research climate change and it doesn’t match the consensus they get massively sigmatised for it. Now scientists are effectively scared to research stuff because they don’t want to lose funding or get slaughtered for having an opinion that may differ in anyway from the “norm”. It’s quite scary what’s happening in the west due to the media and public. Not just in science.

by EricE 6y ago

Mountain_Skies 6y ago

As pushback continues to mount against this political behavior in science, those who created the environment, sensing a loss of power, will push more of these "can't we just get along" articles in an attempt to silence those pushing back against their bullying and political gamesmanship. Far beyond this situation, attacking and then suing for peace, then attacking and suing for peace, over and over again is a timeless battle tactic. Those who want to do science instead of engaging in political battles are easy targets for this tactic because they just want things to end so they can go back to research. Those who wield science as a sword for political purposes of course will take advantage of this weakness and the manipulation will never end by concession. If science journalists are serious about wanting peace, they can adopt a zero tolerance policy for politics in their content, including the passive aggressive writing that attempts to sneak in political attacks inside other content. But they won't because ultimately the politics are far more important than the science. If it were otherwise, they wouldn't have gotten into this situation in the first place.

philliphaydon 6y ago

The media is notorious for spreading “the science is settle”, and the reaction of the public to label anyone a denier if someone doesn’t think /exactly/ the same way, has ruined science for me.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
It shouldn't ruin science for you. It should ruin the media and the public for you.
- philliphaydon 6y ago
  It’s ruined because look at climate change. While I think we can all agree that climate change is real. Science can’t agree. But if scientists research climate change and it doesn’t match the consensus they get massively sigmatised for it. Now scientists are effectively scared to research stuff because they don’t want to lose funding or get slaughtered for having an opinion that may differ in anyway from the “norm”. It’s quite scary what’s happening in the west due to the media and public. Not just in science.