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I found this audio recording of an Apple user's group meeting very fascinating from 1978. https://archive.org/details/camvchm_000069/camvchm_000069_t01_a_access
by th0ma5 6y ago
I found this audio recording of an Apple user's group meeting very fascinating from 1978. https://archive.org/details/camvchm_000069/camvchm_000069_t01_a_access.mp3 https://archive.org/details/camvchm_000069/camvchm_000069_t0...
Woz at one point talks about how if you don't understand the undocumented instructions maybe they aren't for you. Anyway, kind of nice ambience to it as well.
- uniqueid 6y agoWow, Apple was two years old at that point!
- cronix 6y agoOfficially, but Jobs/Woz were making and selling illegal blue tone boxes 10 years before that around 1972. They allowed you to basically steal phone time from the phone companies by simulating the sounds that nickles/dimes/quarters made when inserting them into a payphone so you didn't have to pay to use the phone for local or long distance calls. https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/27/blue-box-circuit-board-designed-by-steve-wozniak-to-hit-auction-block https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/27/blue-box-circuit-...
- wittjeff 6y agoA 'blue box' routed calls through the network. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box A red box simulated the tones made when coins were inserted into a pay phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_box_(phreaking) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_box_(phreaking)
- ChrisArchitect 6y agoshrug Everyone still called it blue boxing when you were putting tones into the phone
- julianh95 6y agoThanks for sharing this. Do you have the timestamp for that particular bit? Edit: Looks like it's from 6:00 to 6:40
- anonymouse008 6y agoNice to know Apple is still Apple.
- tpmx 6y agoHow so? Woz is answering pretty much every single question in insane levels of detail. So much candor. That's the opposite of the Apple I know.
- anonymouse008 6y agoI think we are saying the same thing; it’s a cheeky remark that to read Apple’s documentation is in it of itself, a learned skill, essential to being productive in Swift. I read the comment as Woz saying documentation isn’t for the faint of heart ... true (Mind you, I love Apple’s docs now, and honestly prefer it compared to Stripe-y and Twilio-y documentation... to me S&T docs are a style that tries to smooth over the cluttered calls and returns. Are they APIs that makes sense to accomplish x style or job succinctly, or do I have to read the 8 million other things I don’t care about to do the one thing I need to do?)
- tpmx 6y agoAh, ok. No, we weren't saying the same thing, but I now understand what you meant, and I also happen to agree. Current Apple documentation sucks. I think you may be exhibiting some kind of Stockholm syndrome :).
- azinman2 6y agoYou're doing it wrong. The actual documentation is all in the WWDC videos... just better hope it covers the section you're concerned about!