That is a very interesting idea. I never considered that freedom can either contain or exclude liberty, depending on who you are talking to. But i'm still prett

That is a very interesting idea. I never considered that freedom can either contain or exclude liberty, depending on who you are talking to. But i'm still pretty sure that you can't confuse the term 'liberty', as it has a more defined meaning, regardless of cultural contexts. What changes is the value associated with the ideal. Every people on Earth strives for freedom, but the form of this freedom may be different in every cultural context. In the Western tradition, as developed by John Stuart Mill, Frederick Bastiat, Thomas Paine and John Locke, etc., this means liberty which is characterised by an emphasis on negative rights, freedom from government, and individualism. I do not think that the people of Kashmir consider liberty when they ask for freedom, but rather mean freedom in the way that the OP defines it, as only being democratic self-governance.