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I would rather make 1k a month and work on something I like on my terms than to have a stressful/meaningless job around the clock with unpaid working hours all

I would rather make 1k a month and work on something I like on my terms than to have a stressful/meaningless job around the clock with unpaid working hours all around. There only so much shit you really need. And you need time for your friends/loved one. You'll live poorer but longer. Edit : This is not a fantasy about poverty being more genuine. Poverty makes you die sooner. My point is a life spent running after money and positions is a meaningless life. Edit 2: I may have a bias here since I live with under 1k a month, under my country's minimum wage that is .

breakfastduck 6y ago
Appreciate that's the case for you, but under 1k in either the UK or US or many European countries is completely untenable for independent living.
- cassepipe 6y ago
  I live in Paris so it's quite expensive. Not making a case about my lifestyle which is quite spartan I admit but I am tired of reading people complaining they can't make a living with only 3k a month, like my father, which feels kind of obscene to me. The reason my father is complaining about his financial situation all the time is because is always trying to buy shit to compensate the time he lost doing the job he doesn't like. It all ends up in the basement and when the basement will be full, it'll finally end up burnt in a land fill next to a village in Malaysia or something. Don't be my father.
  - breakfastduck 6y ago
    I'm more surprised you can even pay rent in Paris & eat for <1k a month. You have to remember peoples circumstances too - many people have families or live in very expensive areas, they can't just suddenly stop everything to live on a lower amount like an individual can.
    - cassepipe 6y ago
      I think I live in an expensive area. Rent is 500 euros a month (which is cheap, but I get what I pay for). Phone is five euros/month. So is internet (shared). I don't pay transportation because I think it should be free since I am not polluting common air with a car. Else I have a bike. Then I have 400 euros that need to be shared among food (which is swiftly shoplifted if expensive ;), clothing (which I already have plenty so I am fine) and nights out (which at the moment is rather quiet you know why). I cut my own hair or ask a friend. Short period of more intense work paid for all the *ware. Rather fine I must say. As I said my point is not to say that everyone should be like me although I like to show off how not-wealthy I am for the high of moral superiority. My point is that thinking you need more money is often intricated with irrational emotions. It has happened to me various times to have someone I know is doing fine complaining about being "tight". When a person that's poor say "I have no money", it's means the account balance is dangerously close to 0,when a well off person says so, it means "I wish I did not have to cut down expenses so I can maintain my standard of living".
      - artembugara 6y ago
        I think my co-founder (CTO of NewsCatcher) is in a very common situation. He's in a 500 euro flat in 13th district. It's literally everything in one room. Everything.
        DocTomoe 6y ago
        You make that sound like it is a problem, when "having a room for yourself" was considered a luxury only 100 short years ago, when you would have shared that very same room with four family members. Living in a small flat (essentially everything in one room) even though I would not have to economically, it taught me about sufficiency and the cost of buying things. Empty spaces tend to fill up with stuff you buy. If you do not have empty space, you buy less, which is good for your mental well-being and the planet.
        cassepipe 6y ago

breakfastduck 6y ago

Appreciate that's the case for you, but under 1k in either the UK or US or many European countries is completely untenable for independent living.

cassepipe 6y ago
I live in Paris so it's quite expensive. Not making a case about my lifestyle which is quite spartan I admit but I am tired of reading people complaining they can't make a living with only 3k a month, like my father, which feels kind of obscene to me. The reason my father is complaining about his financial situation all the time is because is always trying to buy shit to compensate the time he lost doing the job he doesn't like. It all ends up in the basement and when the basement will be full, it'll finally end up burnt in a land fill next to a village in Malaysia or something. Don't be my father.
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  I'm more surprised you can even pay rent in Paris & eat for <1k a month. You have to remember peoples circumstances too - many people have families or live in very expensive areas, they can't just suddenly stop everything to live on a lower amount like an individual can.
  - cassepipe 6y ago
    I think I live in an expensive area. Rent is 500 euros a month (which is cheap, but I get what I pay for). Phone is five euros/month. So is internet (shared). I don't pay transportation because I think it should be free since I am not polluting common air with a car. Else I have a bike. Then I have 400 euros that need to be shared among food (which is swiftly shoplifted if expensive ;), clothing (which I already have plenty so I am fine) and nights out (which at the moment is rather quiet you know why). I cut my own hair or ask a friend. Short period of more intense work paid for all the *ware. Rather fine I must say. As I said my point is not to say that everyone should be like me although I like to show off how not-wealthy I am for the high of moral superiority. My point is that thinking you need more money is often intricated with irrational emotions. It has happened to me various times to have someone I know is doing fine complaining about being "tight". When a person that's poor say "I have no money", it's means the account balance is dangerously close to 0,when a well off person says so, it means "I wish I did not have to cut down expenses so I can maintain my standard of living".
    - artembugara 6y ago
      I think my co-founder (CTO of NewsCatcher) is in a very common situation. He's in a 500 euro flat in 13th district. It's literally everything in one room. Everything.
      - DocTomoe 6y ago
        You make that sound like it is a problem, when "having a room for yourself" was considered a luxury only 100 short years ago, when you would have shared that very same room with four family members. Living in a small flat (essentially everything in one room) even though I would not have to economically, it taught me about sufficiency and the cost of buying things. Empty spaces tend to fill up with stuff you buy. If you do not have empty space, you buy less, which is good for your mental well-being and the planet.
        cassepipe 6y ago