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Katakana, to me, is such a trouble. I really wonder whether I'm the only one who believes that Katakana is a big part of the reason, why it's very hard for nati

Katakana, to me, is such a trouble. I really wonder whether I'm the only one who believes that Katakana is a big part of the reason, why it's very hard for native Japanese speakers to learn English. In a Japan of today, you grow up with a plentitude of words taken from English and written + pronounced in Katakana. So you learn to pronounce "san-do-i-chi" for sandwich, "de-za-i-na" for "designer", "su-ma-ho" for smartphone, "ca-re-n-da" for calendar. And since you use and pronounce them wrongly on a daily basis you reinforce the Japanesified pronunciations. Then, actually pronouncing "calendar" in an English way becomes tricky. So to me, the alphabets are a great example of a "historically grown" system, that's ripe for a "refactoring".

emodendroket 6y ago
I think this is kind of backwards. Japanese just has a restrictive phonetic system that makes it awkward to borrow English words. It’s unlikely that if it were written differently they’d pronounce the words more like English.
earthboundkid 6y ago
English has an alphabet, but we still slaughter the pronunciation of harakiri, karaoke, and kamikaze because our phonology demands it. The one Japanese word we pronounce okay is "tsunami" which has a sound we don't have, lol!
- supuun 6y ago
  Yeah, good point. Some more: anime, manga, samurai.
andrewzah 6y ago
Unlikely. English and Japanese have different phonetics. The writing system just reflects the spoken language. Korean has this same problem. Ice cream becomes ah-ee-suh kr-ee-muh, etc. I don't know very much Japanese but I believe it's even worse for Korean in this regard.
supuun 6y ago
interesting perspective, but more important reason in my opinion is that Japanese has so simple pronunciation (many vowels and fewer sounds all together), so Japanese people are not accustomed to making those difficult sounds that are in English.

emodendroket 6y ago

I think this is kind of backwards. Japanese just has a restrictive phonetic system that makes it awkward to borrow English words. It’s unlikely that if it were written differently they’d pronounce the words more like English.

earthboundkid 6y ago

English has an alphabet, but we still slaughter the pronunciation of harakiri, karaoke, and kamikaze because our phonology demands it. The one Japanese word we pronounce okay is "tsunami" which has a sound we don't have, lol!

supuun 6y ago
Yeah, good point. Some more: anime, manga, samurai.

andrewzah 6y ago

Unlikely. English and Japanese have different phonetics. The writing system just reflects the spoken language. Korean has this same problem. Ice cream becomes ah-ee-suh kr-ee-muh, etc. I don't know very much Japanese but I believe it's even worse for Korean in this regard.

supuun 6y ago

interesting perspective, but more important reason in my opinion is that Japanese has so simple pronunciation (many vowels and fewer sounds all together), so Japanese people are not accustomed to making those difficult sounds that are in English.