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Brave's main distinction is the cryptocurrency thing... as a browser it doesn't offer an interesting difference over the competition for privacy. And as privacy

Brave's main distinction is the cryptocurrency thing... as a browser it doesn't offer an interesting difference over the competition for privacy. And as privacy is a cat and mouse game, I'm not sure that Brave has developed the reputation that they get an edge on this problem over Apple or Mozilla. After that I'm not sure what it's offering. What is the eye opening factor here? In what ways has Brave really taken leadership? If Google or Apple did the same things Brave did with their cryptocoin donation scheme it would seem incredibly abusive. Also, if Apple promoted that they used local machine learning to develop profiles for optimal ad placement on you, it would only damage their brand.

roenxi 6y ago
That is a bit like saying the iPhone is just a Blackberry with a touchscreen. Change doesn't have to be all that big to be important. The "cryptocurrency thing" is enough. Brave is attempting to bring about a vision where the user has direct access to the advertising ecosystem. That is offering users a slice of advertising revenue. That is significant. And it is a level of radical that Mozilla/Firefox simply isn't showing. They are basically acting like the internet is done, Chrome figured it out and they just have to provide the same again but with a different rendering engine and some configuration tweaks. Acceptable, but uninspiring and sort-of pointless. Anyone who cares about having a good web browser jumped ship to Chrome.
- threatofrain 6y ago
  Brave has been around since 2015. When the iPhone came out it exploded like wildfire, and the year after came the iPhone 3G, followed by the iPhone 3GS. And if any of the major browser vendors did the same thing Brave did, it would be a scandal. In that way, Brave's innovation must be that they can fly under the radar.
  - roenxi 6y ago
    > Steve Jobs said that when you hold up the iPhone, it's value should be obvious, and people will say they want it right away. And the ordinary customers on the ground saw the iPhone and it exploded instantly like wildfire, and then it redefined a new category of "smartphone", framing all other phones as "dumb". Yeah, that is what I was pointing to. All that happened without the iPhone being all that different from what was on the market. Other phones made calls, other phones had software. iPhone really just threw good design, an app store and no keyboard into the mix. We wouldn't know that was revolutionary, market upending levels of change except for being around to see the results. Embedding crypto into the web browser is a big deal, even if you don't think much the idea. It has implications, it might change how money flows in the web which is quite drastic. It isn't obvious to me why you think the idea is a scandal but each to their own I say.
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roenxi 6y ago

That is a bit like saying the iPhone is just a Blackberry with a touchscreen. Change doesn't have to be all that big to be important. The "cryptocurrency thing" is enough. Brave is attempting to bring about a vision where the user has direct access to the advertising ecosystem. That is offering users a slice of advertising revenue. That is significant. And it is a level of radical that Mozilla/Firefox simply isn't showing. They are basically acting like the internet is done, Chrome figured it out and they just have to provide the same again but with a different rendering engine and some configuration tweaks. Acceptable, but uninspiring and sort-of pointless. Anyone who cares about having a good web browser jumped ship to Chrome.

threatofrain 6y ago
Brave has been around since 2015. When the iPhone came out it exploded like wildfire, and the year after came the iPhone 3G, followed by the iPhone 3GS. And if any of the major browser vendors did the same thing Brave did, it would be a scandal. In that way, Brave's innovation must be that they can fly under the radar.
- roenxi 6y ago
  > Steve Jobs said that when you hold up the iPhone, it's value should be obvious, and people will say they want it right away. And the ordinary customers on the ground saw the iPhone and it exploded instantly like wildfire, and then it redefined a new category of "smartphone", framing all other phones as "dumb". Yeah, that is what I was pointing to. All that happened without the iPhone being all that different from what was on the market. Other phones made calls, other phones had software. iPhone really just threw good design, an app store and no keyboard into the mix. We wouldn't know that was revolutionary, market upending levels of change except for being around to see the results. Embedding crypto into the web browser is a big deal, even if you don't think much the idea. It has implications, it might change how money flows in the web which is quite drastic. It isn't obvious to me why you think the idea is a scandal but each to their own I say.
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