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I'm stoked. I've been a bit of an Intel hater lately but more competition is good for everyone. Though I'm guessing other people are excited about these directi

I'm stoked. I've been a bit of an Intel hater lately but more competition is good for everyone. Though I'm guessing other people are excited about these directions as well because their stock is pretty high at the moment.

stingraycharles 6y ago
Same here, although I wouldn’t call myself as much as a hater as it’s just schadenfreude. If Intel were to double down on their own fabbing and become a reasonable alternative to TSMC I think that would be great for everyone.
m463 6y ago
There have traditionally been cycles and we all win. I remember years back when AMD became competitive with intel and then intel turned around and came out with fast cpus, and we had all kinds of choices. I think the PC is a really good thing we don't want to lose it. When we have competition it is better for customers with more choices, and employees who actually have to compete, and there are standard interfaces new companies can develop for. Honestly, what I worry about is Apple and their spiral into themselves and their closed ecosystem. I think Apple was at their best when the adopted the PC architecture and interoperability made everything better.
- not_exactly__ 6y ago
  Have you used an M1 Air yet? I Because that’s the best computer I’ve ever owned.
  - m463 6y ago
    At least you can install 3rd party software on a mac. for now. ;)
- samus 6y ago
  > there are standard interfaces new companies can develop for. Not so much in x86/x86_64 though. This ISA is a minefield of patents if you want to do anything state-of-the-art. AMD and Intel have mutual licencing agreements with each other, which prevents any upstarts from competing with them. Any competitors will have to license ARM or invest into RISC-V.
KptMarchewa 6y ago
Agreed. Happy that Intel shareholders elected against making the company a shell to extract value.

stingraycharles 6y ago

Same here, although I wouldn’t call myself as much as a hater as it’s just schadenfreude. If Intel were to double down on their own fabbing and become a reasonable alternative to TSMC I think that would be great for everyone.

m463 6y ago

There have traditionally been cycles and we all win. I remember years back when AMD became competitive with intel and then intel turned around and came out with fast cpus, and we had all kinds of choices. I think the PC is a really good thing we don't want to lose it. When we have competition it is better for customers with more choices, and employees who actually have to compete, and there are standard interfaces new companies can develop for. Honestly, what I worry about is Apple and their spiral into themselves and their closed ecosystem. I think Apple was at their best when the adopted the PC architecture and interoperability made everything better.

not_exactly__ 6y ago
Have you used an M1 Air yet? I Because that’s the best computer I’ve ever owned.
- m463 6y ago
  At least you can install 3rd party software on a mac. for now. ;)
samus 6y ago
> there are standard interfaces new companies can develop for. Not so much in x86/x86_64 though. This ISA is a minefield of patents if you want to do anything state-of-the-art. AMD and Intel have mutual licencing agreements with each other, which prevents any upstarts from competing with them. Any competitors will have to license ARM or invest into RISC-V.

KptMarchewa 6y ago

Agreed. Happy that Intel shareholders elected against making the company a shell to extract value.