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Moreover, you don't even need to pass an IQ test to join MENSA US. https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/ https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/
by Foobar8568 6y ago
Moreover, you don't even need to pass an IQ test to join MENSA US.
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/ https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/
- mamon 6y agoWhat I find interesting on that page is that the more recent (past 2-3 decades) college preparatory tests (e.g. SAT) are not accepted as substitutes to IQ tests. Shows the trend of dumbing down the tests, I guess.
- rory 6y agoThat is odd. If the tests were simply dumbed down, wouldn't Mensa just raise the required score? The implication is that these tests have become less IQ-correlated. I'd be interested to see a comparison in the type of questions from the 70s vs today.
- hanniabu 6y agoProbably less reliable and more overhead. You have to constantly evaluate what the new equivalent score and who knows, maybe even the max score isn't good enough anymore.
- tux3 6y agoResponding in a vacuum, but the other explanation could be that these tests fail to discriminate at the high-end. If everyone with a high score is squished together, raising the floor just amplifies relative noise
- alistairSH 6y agoThat's exactly what they did - they have 3 bands of years for the SAT. Two year bands (<1974, 74-94) are accepted with different scores, and the more recent tests (94+) are not accepted. The major change in 1994 was the allowance of calculators during the math portion. I don't know why MENSA couldn't make a similar score adjustment here.
- Foobar8568 6y agoWell 5 years ago, they would accept all of them. Hell, they would even take a GMAT score. https://web.archive.org/web/20161104152027/http://www.us.mensa.org/AML/?LinkServID=005EB3F7-B83A-44BA-B4FFD5114A1AC31D https://web.archive.org/web/20161104152027/http://www.us.men...
- thaumasiotes 6y agoI struggle to see how a list of accepted IQ tests supports the idea that you don't need to pass an IQ test to join.
- gugagore 6y agoThere are other tests that qualify you for membership, it appears.
- whatshisface 6y agoI predict that in 20 years or fewer, they will accept algorithms interviews.
- giantg2 6y agoOr LeetCode
- PartiallyTyped 6y agoIt is a list of different aptitude tests, e.g. LSATs, GREs and so on.
- Consultant32452 6y agoAptitude tests are IQ tests in a socially acceptable disguise.
- giantg2 6y agoNot exactly. There may be some correlation, but there are certainly people who can get in via an aptitude test who would not be able to get in using an IQ test. The testing methods are completely different.
- Consultant32452 6y agoA person can improve an aptitude test score with some appropriate training, but a higher IQ person will tend to score proportionally higher given the same training/experience.
- pkilgore 6y agoWhat's interesting in the context of the post is that apparently I qualify for MENSA on the basis of several test yet have had not the slightest inkling to even figure that out, nor absolutely any interest in joining now that I know. Maybe MENSA is a representative sample of smart people, but I have a lot of friends and colleagues I consider much smarter then me and none of us are in MENSA, so I'm skeptical.