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This is complete hearsay. If China could so easily violate one country, two systems, they wouldn't have cared about a formal extradition bill to begin with.

by Aunche 6y ago

alasdair_ 6y ago
There are dozens of videos. Google “hong Kong police only speak mandarin” if you want sources. Here is one of many: https://twitter.com/AmyWong01217912/status/1182296322772090880 https://twitter.com/AmyWong01217912/status/11822963227720908...
- Aunche 6y ago
  That tweet is exactly what I mean by hearsay. A few clips cherrypicked from thousands of hours of footage, showing a police officer speaking a few words in the second most popular language in the area is not evidence that they're undercover Chinese officers.
  - mannerheim 6y ago
    Depending on what figures you look at, English may be more popular. Fairly close these days, though.
  - skosch 6y ago
    "Second most popular language in the area" is a gross distortion of reality. It would make zero sense for a local police officer to choose to yell at local protestors or local colleagues in a non-native language that carries significant stigma in HK.
    - Aunche 6y ago
      It's not a "gross distortion of reality" to question a interpretation a clip in a way that you disagree with, especially since you lack the context as well. It doesn't change how little evidence there is that Chinese officers were secretly policing Hong Kong.
Der_Einzige 6y ago
No it isn't. The people of Myanmar have been sharing lots and lots of videos and media showing china has sent police officers and soldiers to the military government to keep order. It's totally in the CCP playbook to replace local police with their own cadres.
- Aunche 6y ago
  Again, complete hearsay that China is supporting the military coup. They had good relations with incumbent government due to the belt and road initiative.
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    >> The people of Myanmar have been sharing lots and lots of videos... > complete hearsay... Um, what? How do you go from video evidence to "complete hearsay"?
    - shaobo 6y ago
      So where are these videos?
  - bosswipe 6y ago
    CCP saw democracy in Burma as the West gaining influence in the region.
    - Der_Einzige 6y ago
      Which was correct - given that democratic Burma was a crown jewel of Obama's Asian Pivot.
  - alasdair_ 6y ago
    > They had good relations with incumbent government due to the belt and road initiative. The incumbent government of Myanmar WAS the military, just in a less overt fashion. They were the ones in charge of almost everything, the main change is now they don’t have a facade of democracy.

This is complete hearsay. If China could so easily violate one country, two systems, they wouldn't have cared about a formal extradition bill to begin with.

by Aunche 6y ago

This is complete hearsay. If China could so easily violate one country, two systems, they wouldn't have cared about a formal extradition bill to begin with.

alasdair_ 6y ago

There are dozens of videos. Google “hong Kong police only speak mandarin” if you want sources. Here is one of many: https://twitter.com/AmyWong01217912/status/1182296322772090880 https://twitter.com/AmyWong01217912/status/11822963227720908...

Aunche 6y ago
That tweet is exactly what I mean by hearsay. A few clips cherrypicked from thousands of hours of footage, showing a police officer speaking a few words in the second most popular language in the area is not evidence that they're undercover Chinese officers.
- mannerheim 6y ago
  Depending on what figures you look at, English may be more popular. Fairly close these days, though.
- skosch 6y ago
  "Second most popular language in the area" is a gross distortion of reality. It would make zero sense for a local police officer to choose to yell at local protestors or local colleagues in a non-native language that carries significant stigma in HK.
  - Aunche 6y ago
    It's not a "gross distortion of reality" to question a interpretation a clip in a way that you disagree with, especially since you lack the context as well. It doesn't change how little evidence there is that Chinese officers were secretly policing Hong Kong.

Der_Einzige 6y ago

No it isn't. The people of Myanmar have been sharing lots and lots of videos and media showing china has sent police officers and soldiers to the military government to keep order. It's totally in the CCP playbook to replace local police with their own cadres.

Aunche 6y ago
Again, complete hearsay that China is supporting the military coup. They had good relations with incumbent government due to the belt and road initiative.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  >> The people of Myanmar have been sharing lots and lots of videos... > complete hearsay... Um, what? How do you go from video evidence to "complete hearsay"?
  - shaobo 6y ago
    So where are these videos?
- bosswipe 6y ago
  CCP saw democracy in Burma as the West gaining influence in the region.
  - Der_Einzige 6y ago
    Which was correct - given that democratic Burma was a crown jewel of Obama's Asian Pivot.
- alasdair_ 6y ago
  > They had good relations with incumbent government due to the belt and road initiative. The incumbent government of Myanmar WAS the military, just in a less overt fashion. They were the ones in charge of almost everything, the main change is now they don’t have a facade of democracy.