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>This will be a tiny niche phone Yes. So what?

imwillofficial 6y ago
He is politely refuting your point. “The commercial app store model does not work, at least not for the user.” I will be more direct for your benefit. Not only are you wrong. You’re wrong on a scale so large, 100 years ago the average person had never thought of numbers that high. Not only is the commercial App Store system working for users, it’s working for billions of them. Billions of humans are cool with it. Your “open App Store” concept works for so few people, as to hardly be compared in the same breath.
- ddevault 6y ago
  They might be "cool with it", but only out of ignorance that there are better models. Your argument boils down to "might makes right".
  - akerl_ 6y ago
    I am an informed user who is cool with commercial app stores. The response above, which you replied to, is pretty toxic and I don’t agree with the level of vitriol they seem to have, but please don’t paint with such a broad brush. Being cool with commercial ecosystems is not only a product of ignorance.
  - fouric 6y ago
    I am a user, and programmer, informed about both the commercial app store models and package repositories. I am perfectly fine with commercial app stores - there's absolutely nothing wrong with the concept. Are Google and Apple's implementations of the concept bad? Yes. But it's not very difficult to separate out the traits of the implementations with the traits of the idea. Steam seems to be doing very well, and as a user of that platform, they are executing it pretty well.
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    "They might be "cool with it", but only out of ignorance that there are better models." Way to speak for everyone bud. Including me, I never said "might makes right" or anything like it. Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension before trying to speak for others. My argument boils down to "Perfect is the enemy of good"
- fouric 6y ago
  In their defense, just because a platform has a large number of users doesn't mean that it's "working" (for some definitions of working). I use Android, but not because I like it, but because I have to. There are apps that I need access to that are only available for iOS and Android - and Android is the slightly less-terrible of the two. Now, the more general argument about the "commercial app store model not working" is utterly ridiculous - you can't make any useful generalizations with a sample size of 2. (actually, Steam seems to be doing pretty well - I rarely hear people complaining about it, and it's a commercial app store) > Not only are you wrong. You’re wrong on a scale so large, 100 years ago the average person had never thought of numbers that high. ...is an amazing comeback, that I will be taking.

He is politely refuting your point. “The commercial app store model does not work, at least not for the user.” I will be more direct for your benefit. Not only are you wrong. You’re wrong on a scale so large, 100 years ago the average person had never thought of numbers that high. Not only is the commercial App Store system working for users, it’s working for billions of them. Billions of humans are cool with it. Your “open App Store” concept works for so few people, as to hardly be compared in the same breath.

ddevault 6y ago
They might be "cool with it", but only out of ignorance that there are better models. Your argument boils down to "might makes right".
- akerl_ 6y ago
  I am an informed user who is cool with commercial app stores. The response above, which you replied to, is pretty toxic and I don’t agree with the level of vitriol they seem to have, but please don’t paint with such a broad brush. Being cool with commercial ecosystems is not only a product of ignorance.
- fouric 6y ago
  I am a user, and programmer, informed about both the commercial app store models and package repositories. I am perfectly fine with commercial app stores - there's absolutely nothing wrong with the concept. Are Google and Apple's implementations of the concept bad? Yes. But it's not very difficult to separate out the traits of the implementations with the traits of the idea. Steam seems to be doing very well, and as a user of that platform, they are executing it pretty well.
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  "They might be "cool with it", but only out of ignorance that there are better models." Way to speak for everyone bud. Including me, I never said "might makes right" or anything like it. Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension before trying to speak for others. My argument boils down to "Perfect is the enemy of good"
fouric 6y ago
In their defense, just because a platform has a large number of users doesn't mean that it's "working" (for some definitions of working). I use Android, but not because I like it, but because I have to. There are apps that I need access to that are only available for iOS and Android - and Android is the slightly less-terrible of the two. Now, the more general argument about the "commercial app store model not working" is utterly ridiculous - you can't make any useful generalizations with a sample size of 2. (actually, Steam seems to be doing pretty well - I rarely hear people complaining about it, and it's a commercial app store) > Not only are you wrong. You’re wrong on a scale so large, 100 years ago the average person had never thought of numbers that high. ...is an amazing comeback, that I will be taking.