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Here's an article I found about her husband also fantasizing about pedophilia: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/something-rotten-at-the-heart-of https://gra
by y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
Here's an article I found about her husband also fantasizing about pedophilia: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/something-rotten-at-the-heart-of https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/something-rotten-at-the...
I'm posting that link because it also contains information around their claim his Twitter account was "hacked".
- snicksnak 6y agoJeez, that's disgusting and concerning to say the least. Wonder if this is another case of reddit admins went rogue or even sanctioned by reddit.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoHow am I supposed to feel about this? Someone has sexual fantasies about clearly immoral and horrible acts, but has apparently (I only skimmed the article) never acted on them. I am supposed to, what, think this person is vile? That anyone who associates with them is vile? Why is it any of our business what this guy is into?
- mattnewton 6y agoI guess the outrage is more that someone associated with both him and with her father (who was convicted of acting on those fantasies) was put into a moderation position at Reddit. And people were being banned for calling this out.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoSure, fair, I just don't think anyone dredging up this guy's sexual fantasies up and associating them with actual child molestation is taking the moral high ground. There is a difference between watching John Wick murder people and doing actual murders, and it is the same difference between harboring immoral sexual fantasies and actually committing them.
- mattnewton 6y agoI don't think the John Wick movie is useful analogy. People are "dredging" these up to raise real questions about the judgement of someone who was hired to use that judgement to moderate their social networks.
- koonsolo 6y agoSure, so why don't you let this person tutor your kids. Nothing wrong with that right?
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- shaneprrlt 6y agoI appreciate your username, but really, is this the hill to die on? Being morally relativistic about this subject is beyond the pale. And to make it obvious: yes, yes you should find this and the notion that someone would fantasize about it utterly gut wrenching.
- lordgroff 6y agoGuessing said person has no children. I wouldn't have my kids within 10 km of this utter creep.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago> And to make it obvious: yes, yes you should find this and the notion that someone would fantasize about it utterly gut wrenching. I don't. Theft is obviously immoral, should I condemn people who enjoy heist fiction? People who enjoy roleplaying soldiers in a Civil War re-enactment? People who murder people in video games? There is a difference between fantasy and reality.
- shaneprrlt 6y agoThen you are a true nihilist.
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- koonsolo 6y agoSo you want this person working in a school or daycare? Do you want such a person to adopt some kids, or tutor kids in his spare time? I think it definitely matters when a person has such fantasies.
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- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoWould you let a woman you cared about work on a project with Larry Garfield? I don't know why this concept is so difficult for some people. Fantasy and reality are not the same thing. Millions (if not billions) of people occasionally have fantasies about strangling their boss, or murdering people they don't like, and they never actually do those things because they're abhorrent. Add some "think of the children!" into the mix and otherwise rational people are suddenly very much in favor of lynching.
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- rimliu 6y agoDoes the same standard apply to crime writers? Movie makers? Why fantasy about gruesome killing is just fine, but fantasy about perversion suddenly is not?
- koonsolo 6y agoIf you have sexual fantasies about the opposite sex, you're straight. If you have sexual fantasies about the same sex, you are gay. Even if you never had sex with another person, it would still make you gay. If you have sexual fantasies about both, you are bi. If you have sexual fantasies about young kids, you are a pedophile. If you have sexual fantasies about sex with corpses, you are a necrophiliac. The same doesn't go for acts of violence. You can quickly think "I'm gonna kill this person", but it doesn't make it so. Most people have such a quick thought, which basically makes all of us killers. This is considered normal, because most of us are that way. Most of us do not fantasize about sex with kids or corpses, which makes it abnormal.
- jspash 6y agoIn a word, yes. This is how society polices itself. Just like dogs. When a dog does something that isn't beneficial for the group, it gets a nip. The entire pack sees and learns from this. And the entire pack also helps in enforcing this behaviour. However these days Twitter is the pack and "cancelling" is the nip. What's missing is a pack leader or at least a sense of what is truly "right" or "wrong" at this point in humankind's development. So it might seem heavy-handed or a knee-jerk reaction, but I'm on board with this simply because it aligns with my moral views. It's a choice.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y agoI think it is ridiculous to condemn someone for what happens solely in their imagination. I don't believe in thoughtcrime.
- antihero 6y agoImportant to note that this article is written by a huge "anti-trans activist" Graham Linehan.
- mantap 6y agoGraham Linehan is one of the most doctrinaire anti-transgender individuals, anything he writes on the subject should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.
- fnordfnordfnord 6y agoYeah. He's pretty awful and when I find my myself even partially in agreement with his public statements I double check carefully.
- rogermecizki 6y agoTrue, but it doesn't make what he's showing (in this instance) to be false.
- interestica 6y agoWait, the IT Crowd creator?
- Macha 6y agoYes, he went off the deep end on twitter over the last decade, culminating with getting banned about a year ago for continued harassment of specific transgender individuals.
- goblin89 6y ago> Graham Linehan is one of the most doctrinaire anti-transgender individuals, anything he writes on the subject should be taken with a very large pinch of salt. Aimee Challenor advised an LGBT rights charity called Stonewall from 2015. Stonewall advises Girlguiding (UK’s equivalent of girl scouts)[0]. If one accepts that accusations made against her are legitimate, one has to take Stonewall’s recommendations—and hence trans-related Girlguiding policies—with a large pinch of salt, too. (Hint: those policies made headlines in 2017, when Girlguiding started to admit males who identify as females but choose to remain biologically male. Weigh that together with Challenor’s and her husband’s background, and the evidence of her father working together with her and influencing her political agenda.) Challenor remained on Stonewall’s advisory board, even though she left the Green Party over her “serious errors of judgement”, until 2019. I can’t help thinking that perhaps trans community is doing itself a disservice by not being picky as to whom it lets to represent itself, which in some cases may give ammunition to anti-trans sentiment. [0] Stonewall has downplayed the involvement Challenor has had with their policies, but they’d be bound to do this regardless.
- lordgroff 6y agoWow. Truly disturbing.