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When riding my bicycle I am just appalled at how almost suicidal many pedestrians are. Not only it's par for the course to not look around, it somehow became no

by yoz-y 6y ago

When riding my bicycle I am just appalled at how almost suicidal many pedestrians are. Not only it's par for the course to not look around, it somehow became normalized to cross the street in a diagonal facing AWAY from incoming traffic. Cyclists are also completely unaware, it's almost depressing to stop at a red light and just watch swaths of riders zoom past into incoming traffic. One thing i'd like is diagonal crossings that would force you to look in the traffic direction. But then, most people don't bother to walk 10 meters to use the crossing anyways.

ethbr0 6y ago
Like they say in boxing, "protect yourself at all times." Earbuds or headphones while walking near a motor vehicle road with anything shy of a barrier-separated sidewalk should be illegal.
- yoz-y 6y ago
  I think that's a bit too much, it's reasonable to expect that cars will stay on the road. It's the interfaces that are dangerous.
  - ethbr0 6y ago
    In a lot of cities, sidewalks aren't available along common pedestrian routes. And sometimes, when they are, are too narrow. Not listening to music or a podcast seems a reasonable sacrifice to make, in exchange for being within a few feet of multi-ton vehicles at 30+ mph relative velocity.
    - yoz-y 6y ago
      I agree that when walking on a shared road one must be on maximum alert.
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  I don't want the police harassing pedestrians based on what their notion of safe phone use is. Look at how the NYPD uses jaywalking laws? In 2019 90% of the tickets were issued to black or Hispanic individuals. https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/27/jaywalking-while-black-final-2019-numbers-show-race-based-nypd-crackdown-continues/ https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/27/jaywalking-while-blac... There is a large difference between people ought not do <> and cops ought to be given the privilege of harassing and imprisoning people who do <>. It's perfectly possible to wear headphones and use your eyeballs to ensure the path ahead is clear in fact your ears aren't all that useful. I can SEE an oncoming car as much as a mile away if I am hearing a car about to crease me its already too late.

by yoz-y 6y ago

ethbr0 6y ago

Like they say in boxing, "protect yourself at all times." Earbuds or headphones while walking near a motor vehicle road with anything shy of a barrier-separated sidewalk should be illegal.

yoz-y 6y ago
I think that's a bit too much, it's reasonable to expect that cars will stay on the road. It's the interfaces that are dangerous.
- ethbr0 6y ago
  In a lot of cities, sidewalks aren't available along common pedestrian routes. And sometimes, when they are, are too narrow. Not listening to music or a podcast seems a reasonable sacrifice to make, in exchange for being within a few feet of multi-ton vehicles at 30+ mph relative velocity.
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    I agree that when walking on a shared road one must be on maximum alert.
michaelmrose 6y ago
I don't want the police harassing pedestrians based on what their notion of safe phone use is. Look at how the NYPD uses jaywalking laws? In 2019 90% of the tickets were issued to black or Hispanic individuals. https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/27/jaywalking-while-black-final-2019-numbers-show-race-based-nypd-crackdown-continues/ https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/01/27/jaywalking-while-blac... There is a large difference between people ought not do <> and cops ought to be given the privilege of harassing and imprisoning people who do <>. It's perfectly possible to wear headphones and use your eyeballs to ensure the path ahead is clear in fact your ears aren't all that useful. I can SEE an oncoming car as much as a mile away if I am hearing a car about to crease me its already too late.