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EVE Online, Minecraft, Escapist magazine ... what was the point again? I thought at first they had a moral motive. Anyway, DDOSing is not hacking and at least

by Revisor 15y ago

EVE Online, Minecraft, Escapist magazine ... what was the point again? I thought at first they had a moral motive. Anyway, DDOSing is not hacking and at least with these harmless kiddie attacks the defense mechanisms will be more readily available and cheaper (due to higher demand).

retroafroman 15y ago
You may be confusing them with some of the Anonymous attacks from earlier this year. Lulzsec has claimed nothing but "doing it for the lulz" i.e., no real reason at all other than to do it. Anon has claimed to do some hacks for moral reasons.
- ipince 15y ago
  Right. The article claims they're doing it on moral grounds though.
dmix 15y ago
From a comment I posted yesterday re bringing down gaming sites: "For those wondering what the motivation was, earlier in the day there was a thread on the gaming site Escapist complaining about LulzSec hacking into Brink. So LulzSec decided to take down that site and what I assume were a bunch of other easy gaming targets."
Wickk 15y ago
>I thought at first they had a moral motive. They never had a moral motive. When they targeted Sony, everyone was singing praise, but they have never claimed to be doing this for anything other than "lulz". Someone made a great comment on a previous Lulzsec headline: When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature".
- checker 15y ago
  Whenever they're hacking anyone and making headlines, they're increasing political pressures to create a "civilized" internet in the name of safety and security.
  - Wickk 15y ago
    This keeps getting regurgitated on a daily basis, and I don't think the people saying it are even aware of the disruption on a person's daily life that results from this. I'll agree that as a whole security on the net is lousy, but drastic measures like this are an equally lousy method of dealing with it. No one should be surprised when laws get passed that limit freedoms on the internet in response to these actions. Cause and effect.
    - checker 15y ago
      I agree with you that any security implementation will hurt the web and can be a very dangerous thing that will likely fail. My statement is a fact. Politicians and large corporations WILL use incidents like these to push their legislation forward.
      - Wickk 15y ago
        I just realized that I'm agreeing with you and COMPLETELY misread your comment earlier. I apologize
  - danieldk 15y ago
    Or: the gatekeepers are just as vulnerable as anyone else, so maybe we shouldn't give them the key.
    - checker 15y ago
      Reply: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657127 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657127

by Revisor 15y ago

retroafroman 15y ago

You may be confusing them with some of the Anonymous attacks from earlier this year. Lulzsec has claimed nothing but "doing it for the lulz" i.e., no real reason at all other than to do it. Anon has claimed to do some hacks for moral reasons.

ipince 15y ago
Right. The article claims they're doing it on moral grounds though.

dmix 15y ago

From a comment I posted yesterday re bringing down gaming sites: "For those wondering what the motivation was, earlier in the day there was a thread on the gaming site Escapist complaining about LulzSec hacking into Brink. So LulzSec decided to take down that site and what I assume were a bunch of other easy gaming targets."

Wickk 15y ago

>I thought at first they had a moral motive. They never had a moral motive. When they targeted Sony, everyone was singing praise, but they have never claimed to be doing this for anything other than "lulz". Someone made a great comment on a previous Lulzsec headline: When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature".

checker 15y ago
Whenever they're hacking anyone and making headlines, they're increasing political pressures to create a "civilized" internet in the name of safety and security.
- Wickk 15y ago
  This keeps getting regurgitated on a daily basis, and I don't think the people saying it are even aware of the disruption on a person's daily life that results from this. I'll agree that as a whole security on the net is lousy, but drastic measures like this are an equally lousy method of dealing with it. No one should be surprised when laws get passed that limit freedoms on the internet in response to these actions. Cause and effect.
  - checker 15y ago
    I agree with you that any security implementation will hurt the web and can be a very dangerous thing that will likely fail. My statement is a fact. Politicians and large corporations WILL use incidents like these to push their legislation forward.
    - Wickk 15y ago
      I just realized that I'm agreeing with you and COMPLETELY misread your comment earlier. I apologize
- danieldk 15y ago
  Or: the gatekeepers are just as vulnerable as anyone else, so maybe we shouldn't give them the key.
  - checker 15y ago
    Reply: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657127 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657127