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Aren't the issues created by over-regulation and bureaucrats throwing their spanners everywhere to cover their own incompetence?

Denvercoder9 6y ago
There's no evidence supporting that claim, and there have been no such problems with the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson vaccins which had to comply with the same regulations.
- varispeed 6y ago
  These other vaccines are produced for profit so there is money to be made under the table for bureaucrats, whereas AZ does not have this potential. If bureaucrats can stamp out this vaccine they can make more money pushing the others. Have you not seen the fake news about blood clots and other scare mongering to make people want to use other vaccines?
  - Denvercoder9 6y ago
    Hanlon's razor. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. There's absolutely no evidence at all supporting your allegations.
    - varispeed 6y ago
      Would that be a coincidence then that only vaccine made not for profit has such problems? Strange news coming? Allegations? I think this may be both incompetence and corruption. We'll see - I hope this will be properly investigated including the bureaucrats involved in the decisions and their financial affairs.
  - _Microft 6y ago
    > there is money to be made under the table for bureaucrats Corruption is by far not as bad here as in other places. See this [0] if you want to get an overview. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
    - varispeed 6y ago
      This is just a report that collates the so called experts opinions and has no reflection in reality. I could create such report myself.
    - pseudo0 6y ago
      First world countries have just figured out that brown paper envelopes are gauche. Instead, you arrange a no-show job as a board member or consultant for a member of the politician's immediate family. All nice and squeaky clean!
rsynnott 6y ago
Eh? No. Where did you get that? AZ's production shortfall isn't just an EU thing; it's general. The other manufacturers have no such issues; Pfizer-Biontec has actually been able to exceed promised production.
- varispeed 6y ago
  Pfizer seems to have a history of corruption - https://iclg.com/cdr/competition-and-business-crime/pfizer-pays-usd-60-million-for-foreign-bribery-case https://iclg.com/cdr/competition-and-business-crime/pfizer-p... Keep in mind that AZ vaccine is not for profit so bureaucrats do not have many ways to make money from it and in their interest is pushing more expensive ones. This way you can explain the wave of fake news about blood clots and individual countries stopping vaccinations with AZ and scaring the public.

Denvercoder9 6y ago

There's no evidence supporting that claim, and there have been no such problems with the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson vaccins which had to comply with the same regulations.

varispeed 6y ago
These other vaccines are produced for profit so there is money to be made under the table for bureaucrats, whereas AZ does not have this potential. If bureaucrats can stamp out this vaccine they can make more money pushing the others. Have you not seen the fake news about blood clots and other scare mongering to make people want to use other vaccines?
- Denvercoder9 6y ago
  Hanlon's razor. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. There's absolutely no evidence at all supporting your allegations.
  - varispeed 6y ago
    Would that be a coincidence then that only vaccine made not for profit has such problems? Strange news coming? Allegations? I think this may be both incompetence and corruption. We'll see - I hope this will be properly investigated including the bureaucrats involved in the decisions and their financial affairs.
- _Microft 6y ago
  > there is money to be made under the table for bureaucrats Corruption is by far not as bad here as in other places. See this [0] if you want to get an overview. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
  - varispeed 6y ago
    This is just a report that collates the so called experts opinions and has no reflection in reality. I could create such report myself.
  - pseudo0 6y ago
    First world countries have just figured out that brown paper envelopes are gauche. Instead, you arrange a no-show job as a board member or consultant for a member of the politician's immediate family. All nice and squeaky clean!

rsynnott 6y ago

Eh? No. Where did you get that? AZ's production shortfall isn't just an EU thing; it's general. The other manufacturers have no such issues; Pfizer-Biontec has actually been able to exceed promised production.

varispeed 6y ago
Pfizer seems to have a history of corruption - https://iclg.com/cdr/competition-and-business-crime/pfizer-pays-usd-60-million-for-foreign-bribery-case https://iclg.com/cdr/competition-and-business-crime/pfizer-p... Keep in mind that AZ vaccine is not for profit so bureaucrats do not have many ways to make money from it and in their interest is pushing more expensive ones. This way you can explain the wave of fake news about blood clots and individual countries stopping vaccinations with AZ and scaring the public.