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"critics are like eunuchs, they know all about how to do it, but they can't do it" Could you provide some data at least when you give any sort of predition on
by mam2 6y ago
"critics are like eunuchs, they know all about how to do it, but they can't do it"
Could you provide some data at least when you give any sort of predition on the future ? Otherwise it's meaningless. anyone can have a "feeling" or an "opinion"
- gambiting 6y agoWhat sort of data would you deem acceptable? I have driven latest Model 3 with their self-driving package enabled, I have driven the latest Mercedes S class with the latest and greatest from Deimler and same from Audi - all of these systems feel like absolute magic when they work, but when they don't it all falls apart really quickly. Like, don't get me wrong. It's a great system. But it's just a very clever cruise control. It's nowhere near Level 5, not even Level 4 and I'd argue it's not even level 3 at the moment. And yet the OP says we'll see "massive self driving deployment by 2025-2028"??? Like...how? With what technology?
- mam2 6y agoWell at least this comment has like 10x more substance. At least you tried the system.
- gambiting 6y agoAnd yet, both of your comments have contributed exactly nothing to the discussion other than ridiculing me - what is your end goal here exactly?
- mam2 6y agoimproving the level of discussion in the future. I actually liked your second comment. the first one was downright annoying: which are you speaking from ? from what data ? knowing you've tried in reality the system makes your comment have wayyy more weigth. i know i'm an ass but i don't think my criticism was unjustified.
- davewritescode 6y agoYou don't need data to know that the last 5% of most difficult engineering problems is going to be the bulk of the work. Just look at the state of Tesla's full self driving product. Yes, it's impressive in many situations yet it fails at things that are generally. What's the point of automation if I have to babysit it?
- ceejayoz 6y ago> "critics are like eunuchs, they know all about how to do it, but they can't do it" So? I can't BASE jump, but you should still heed my criticism if I tell you doing it from 30 feet up won't work. Someone who can't cook can still identify bad food. Someone who can't code can point out that Facebook's UX is confusing. A non-driver can identify bad driving. A non-singer can identify someone being off-pitch. Dismissing criticism in this nature is a mistake.
- mam2 6y ago> So? I can't BASE jump, but you should still heed my criticism if I tell you doing it from 30 feet up won't work. No its just a meaningless opinion that is polluting the feed. Its just noise. In general in technology debates, especially here on hacker news, we prefer actual "insights" or "diffs" if you go read the site guidelines.
- ceejayoz 6y ago"You will probably die or be injured if you BASE jump from 30 feet up" isn't noise, isn't a matter of opinion, and requires no direct personal experience in BASE jumping.
- mam2 6y agoEveryone knows it, its a meaningless info, so its noise. Ot like having adults speak and the some child come and says "hey look the sky is blue"
- Bancakes 6y agoWhen someone proves constructively P=NP, so self-driving is a deterministic mathematical solution, and not AI wishful thinking.