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In Far-Flung Places, Covid Is Being Treated Early and Well. Americans Don’t Know

13 points by cwwc 6y ago

failwhaleshark 6y ago
Anyone else take 5000 IU (125 μg) to 10000 IU (250 μg) of Vitamin D3 average per day? With 5000 IU, my most recent Vit D 25 OH labs came back at 38 ng/mL ("normal": 30-100). I'm thinking about upping to between 50000/week (7142/day) and 10000/day. Does that sound reasonable? Edit2: I weigh 240 lbs, so that would seem to be 60% more mass than the average person. The new recommendation is roughly 8200 IU/day, so for me that might be around 11000 IU/day. Edit: see also, the Big Vitamin D Mistake https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15867918 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15867918 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28768407/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28768407/
- xxxyyj5 6y ago
  I took 5k IU for a while, now just 2k IU, but need to get labs done - I never have.
- perennus 6y ago
  10k per day for 7 months here. Six three, 220 pounds. I also take Vitamin K2. I have not been sick since, and it has helped my ADHD!
  - failwhaleshark 6y ago
    Woah, nice results! I have ADHD-PI, depression, and crazy-level anxiety (possibly Cushing's syndrome from numerous symptoms). My ADHD might be from from head trauma during teenage years, cyanotic birth, and sleep apnea (sleep deprivation - otolaryngological geometry origin). Atomoxetine and stimulants had too many side-effects. Doc and I are looking at Intuiv as an option.
    - perennus 6y ago
      Vitamin D really helps a lot. And the effects are permanent so it's great. My full supplement stack is: 10k vitamin d, 1x vitamin k2, 1 tablespoon omega-3 oil, 2x zinc magnesium capsules. Did you look at your testosterone levels? It's better being angry than depressed when you have problems, in my opinion :-)
- volker48 6y ago
  I also take 5000 a day and recently had labs that came back normal.
KnowUrFacts 6y ago
this is dangerous hogwash and conspiracy theory crap. DO NOT read into this beyond level of an "Onion" - it's total nonsense. If you don't want to vaxx, don't but do not follow this dangerous rhetoric.
- ViViDboarder 6y ago
  I see an article written by someone I don’t know and a comment by someone I also don’t know. Do you have any reasons you can provide to lead me to believe there is no truth in the article? It doesn’t really appear to be anti-vax to me, but rather advocating for better treatment options.
  - netizen-936824 6y ago
    Shouldn't the evidence for claims be important, rather than the fact that you do or don't know someone?
  - MrTortoise 6y ago
    it opens by presenting unconnected things and then trying to say they all have a common cause - the drug its marketing it them goes on to question authority and saying any care that does work is ineffective by likening it all to a different failure it then proposes a solution to a different problem once again marketing its own drug. yet it presents literally no positive evidence for its drug. This is standard bs 'For 25 years, ivermectin has been distributed free in 19 African countries to control parasites. Is it a coincidence that those countries had 28 percent fewer COVID deaths and 8 percent fewer cases than 35 other African nations? Is it a coincidence that the 240-million-resident Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, which distributes free ivermectin, has a COVID death rate that is one-sixtieth that of the United States’? ' without a shred of evidence it is at best vague correlation, certainly not causative ... so is it even coincidence? Are there places it is being used where it has no effect. Does this drug in those places effect some other factor that increases rate of infection - such as the illnesses it treats which arn't causative factors elsewhere?
    - 6y ago
stormqloud 6y ago
It's classic divide and conquer strategy. The peasants are too distracted fighting about idiocy like whether a drug is republican or democrat. Meanwhile the billionaire's are carving up our assets to distribute to themselves. Own nothing (rent it from us) and be happy with your new life as a serf.
- failwhaleshark 6y ago
  Yeap, and other wedge issues including masks, vaccines, vegetarianism, climate change, abortion, and guns. The billionaire, rent-seeking parasite class owns both parties through hedged corruption (campaign "$upport") as Gore Vidal said: "There is only one party, the Property Party, with two wings: Democrat and Republican." Student debt, credit card debt, wages not keeping up with inflation, automation reducing jobs, lack of universal healthcare (more than M4A), trying to look like a millionaire without savings, razor blade-business model products, increasing costs of living, and less new housing. It's also interesting that the "sharing economy" encourages greater spending on rentals: Lime, Bird, ZipCar, and so on. The only consideration pro renting is whether it's a cheaper lifecycle total cost than owning.
  - stormqloud 6y ago
    If I had not bought a house, I would have no savings. Yay inflation. Jobs don't pay enough and social security won't be there when you need it. Anyone that is thinking of depending of govt for your long term financial stability, should consider if the most important vulnerable years in their lives, should depend on random govt employees and funds invested in politicians friends scams.
  - stormqloud 6y ago
    In politics most companies hedge their bets. They give equally to both political parties. It doesn't matter who wins the elections, they have a guaranteed inside track. It's just theater.
stareatgoats 6y ago
I have no idea if this is reliable info or not, and some small trips into various rabbit holes has not convinced me either way, so far. That said: normally I side with established science but something has become blatantly clear in this pandemic: medicine is intimately tied to geopolitics. Countries and blocs are actively promoting 'their' vaccines and actively discouraging purchase of the vaccines of 'the others', the medicinal effects and needs of people are obviously subordinate. All sides are doing this. It has dealt a serious blow to my trust in official assurances as well as recommendations regarding medicinal matters. I'm not sure if governments care too much about that but they likely should. I don't expect I'm the only one making these observations.

13 points by cwwc 6y ago

Anyone else take 5000 IU (125 μg) to 10000 IU (250 μg) of Vitamin D3 average per day? With 5000 IU, my most recent Vit D 25 OH labs came back at 38 ng/mL ("normal": 30-100). I'm thinking about upping to between 50000/week (7142/day) and 10000/day. Does that sound reasonable? Edit2: I weigh 240 lbs, so that would seem to be 60% more mass than the average person. The new recommendation is roughly 8200 IU/day, so for me that might be around 11000 IU/day. Edit: see also, the Big Vitamin D Mistake https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15867918 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15867918 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28768407/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28768407/

xxxyyj5 6y ago
I took 5k IU for a while, now just 2k IU, but need to get labs done - I never have.
perennus 6y ago
10k per day for 7 months here. Six three, 220 pounds. I also take Vitamin K2. I have not been sick since, and it has helped my ADHD!
- failwhaleshark 6y ago
  Woah, nice results! I have ADHD-PI, depression, and crazy-level anxiety (possibly Cushing's syndrome from numerous symptoms). My ADHD might be from from head trauma during teenage years, cyanotic birth, and sleep apnea (sleep deprivation - otolaryngological geometry origin). Atomoxetine and stimulants had too many side-effects. Doc and I are looking at Intuiv as an option.
  - perennus 6y ago
    Vitamin D really helps a lot. And the effects are permanent so it's great. My full supplement stack is: 10k vitamin d, 1x vitamin k2, 1 tablespoon omega-3 oil, 2x zinc magnesium capsules. Did you look at your testosterone levels? It's better being angry than depressed when you have problems, in my opinion :-)
volker48 6y ago
I also take 5000 a day and recently had labs that came back normal.

KnowUrFacts 6y ago

this is dangerous hogwash and conspiracy theory crap. DO NOT read into this beyond level of an "Onion" - it's total nonsense. If you don't want to vaxx, don't but do not follow this dangerous rhetoric.

ViViDboarder 6y ago
I see an article written by someone I don’t know and a comment by someone I also don’t know. Do you have any reasons you can provide to lead me to believe there is no truth in the article? It doesn’t really appear to be anti-vax to me, but rather advocating for better treatment options.
- netizen-936824 6y ago
  Shouldn't the evidence for claims be important, rather than the fact that you do or don't know someone?
- MrTortoise 6y ago
  it opens by presenting unconnected things and then trying to say they all have a common cause - the drug its marketing it them goes on to question authority and saying any care that does work is ineffective by likening it all to a different failure it then proposes a solution to a different problem once again marketing its own drug. yet it presents literally no positive evidence for its drug. This is standard bs 'For 25 years, ivermectin has been distributed free in 19 African countries to control parasites. Is it a coincidence that those countries had 28 percent fewer COVID deaths and 8 percent fewer cases than 35 other African nations? Is it a coincidence that the 240-million-resident Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, which distributes free ivermectin, has a COVID death rate that is one-sixtieth that of the United States’? ' without a shred of evidence it is at best vague correlation, certainly not causative ... so is it even coincidence? Are there places it is being used where it has no effect. Does this drug in those places effect some other factor that increases rate of infection - such as the illnesses it treats which arn't causative factors elsewhere?
  - 6y ago

stormqloud 6y ago

It's classic divide and conquer strategy. The peasants are too distracted fighting about idiocy like whether a drug is republican or democrat. Meanwhile the billionaire's are carving up our assets to distribute to themselves. Own nothing (rent it from us) and be happy with your new life as a serf.

failwhaleshark 6y ago
Yeap, and other wedge issues including masks, vaccines, vegetarianism, climate change, abortion, and guns. The billionaire, rent-seeking parasite class owns both parties through hedged corruption (campaign "$upport") as Gore Vidal said: "There is only one party, the Property Party, with two wings: Democrat and Republican." Student debt, credit card debt, wages not keeping up with inflation, automation reducing jobs, lack of universal healthcare (more than M4A), trying to look like a millionaire without savings, razor blade-business model products, increasing costs of living, and less new housing. It's also interesting that the "sharing economy" encourages greater spending on rentals: Lime, Bird, ZipCar, and so on. The only consideration pro renting is whether it's a cheaper lifecycle total cost than owning.
- stormqloud 6y ago
  If I had not bought a house, I would have no savings. Yay inflation. Jobs don't pay enough and social security won't be there when you need it. Anyone that is thinking of depending of govt for your long term financial stability, should consider if the most important vulnerable years in their lives, should depend on random govt employees and funds invested in politicians friends scams.
- stormqloud 6y ago
  In politics most companies hedge their bets. They give equally to both political parties. It doesn't matter who wins the elections, they have a guaranteed inside track. It's just theater.

stareatgoats 6y ago

I have no idea if this is reliable info or not, and some small trips into various rabbit holes has not convinced me either way, so far. That said: normally I side with established science but something has become blatantly clear in this pandemic: medicine is intimately tied to geopolitics. Countries and blocs are actively promoting 'their' vaccines and actively discouraging purchase of the vaccines of 'the others', the medicinal effects and needs of people are obviously subordinate. All sides are doing this. It has dealt a serious blow to my trust in official assurances as well as recommendations regarding medicinal matters. I'm not sure if governments care too much about that but they likely should. I don't expect I'm the only one making these observations.