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Mozilla has been playing a little bit better here, but let's not forget Mozilla could remove the addon on pretty much in the same way. Case in point: Firefox o

Mozilla has been playing a little bit better here, but let's not forget Mozilla could remove the addon on pretty much in the same way. Case in point: Firefox on mobile has a selected _whitelist_ of addons you can install, and that's it.

emayljames 6y ago
True, although you can sign in and add to a collection on the site then add to the browser.
- m4rtink 6y ago
  Pretty far from user friendly though - not a lot of users will do that, reducing the chance there will be actual demand to fixup the APIs and addons to actually work on mobile.
  - iggldiggl 6y ago
    … and this only works with Nightly or a forked version.
Boltgolt 6y ago
I was under the impression that the new Firefox for Android has not implemented all plugin APIs yet, and thus can't run most of the plugins. Of course there will be plugins that do work and are not whitelisted right now, and they need to get on that, but it's not just whitelisting for the sake of whitelisting
- kuschku 6y ago
  And you can actually modify that whitelist to be whatever you'd like — e.g. I've added hundreds of addons that aren't by default listed.
  - lordofgibbons 6y ago
    Can you please link to instructions on how to do this?
    - kuschku 6y ago
      1. Create a collection of addons you'd like to use on AMO (e.g. via desktop mode) 2. Use Firefox Nightly 3. Click several times on the firefox icon in settings > about until developer mode is enabled 4. Click "change addon collection" and enter your AMO userid as well as the name of the collection you created in step 1 5. Firefox is restarted, and you can install all addons from your collection (if this doesn't work, clear the cache via the android app settings for firefox) 6. Have fun :)
      - bsdubernerd 6y ago
        I hope you see why I still don't consider Mozilla behavior acceptable here. Many addons work already, but they're locked behind mozilla's vetting. Not only you need to jump through additional hoops, but you actually require an account on Mozilla's website as well. This is like saying that Chrome is fine too, just use Chromium, get the addon from a github release and there you go!
        kuschku 6y ago
        Definitely. But I can understand why not everything is added yet: Addon configuration pages are mostly broken, downloads are broken, and some other APIs. Once those are implemented, which is expected soon (only in october did they implement the majority of the APIs so far) all addons should work, and it'll be open again. The big issue with just opening it now is that it'd lead to dozens of complaints due to broken addons, so I can easily understand limiting it to people with enough understanding to go through these steps. Besides, the chromium workaround used to be the official installation instructions for AdNauseam for Chrome, until Google markef it as malware. And Chromium doesn't even support addons at all on mobile devices
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  By default, you are I deed right. However, you can use Firefox Nightly and install any extension you want.
lopis 6y ago
It's true that the new Firefox still only has a handful of addons available. But that's still a handful more than Chrome supports.
stjohnswarts 6y ago
That's currently a technical limitation because they haven't built all the infrastructure into their "new" browser to handle all the available plugins and don't want to receive thousands of bug reports they can't do anything about.

emayljames 6y ago

True, although you can sign in and add to a collection on the site then add to the browser.

m4rtink 6y ago
Pretty far from user friendly though - not a lot of users will do that, reducing the chance there will be actual demand to fixup the APIs and addons to actually work on mobile.
- iggldiggl 6y ago
  … and this only works with Nightly or a forked version.

Boltgolt 6y ago

I was under the impression that the new Firefox for Android has not implemented all plugin APIs yet, and thus can't run most of the plugins. Of course there will be plugins that do work and are not whitelisted right now, and they need to get on that, but it's not just whitelisting for the sake of whitelisting

kuschku 6y ago
And you can actually modify that whitelist to be whatever you'd like — e.g. I've added hundreds of addons that aren't by default listed.
- lordofgibbons 6y ago
  Can you please link to instructions on how to do this?
  - kuschku 6y ago
    1. Create a collection of addons you'd like to use on AMO (e.g. via desktop mode) 2. Use Firefox Nightly 3. Click several times on the firefox icon in settings > about until developer mode is enabled 4. Click "change addon collection" and enter your AMO userid as well as the name of the collection you created in step 1 5. Firefox is restarted, and you can install all addons from your collection (if this doesn't work, clear the cache via the android app settings for firefox) 6. Have fun :)
    - bsdubernerd 6y ago
      I hope you see why I still don't consider Mozilla behavior acceptable here. Many addons work already, but they're locked behind mozilla's vetting. Not only you need to jump through additional hoops, but you actually require an account on Mozilla's website as well. This is like saying that Chrome is fine too, just use Chromium, get the addon from a github release and there you go!
      - kuschku 6y ago
        Definitely. But I can understand why not everything is added yet: Addon configuration pages are mostly broken, downloads are broken, and some other APIs. Once those are implemented, which is expected soon (only in october did they implement the majority of the APIs so far) all addons should work, and it'll be open again. The big issue with just opening it now is that it'd lead to dozens of complaints due to broken addons, so I can easily understand limiting it to people with enough understanding to go through these steps. Besides, the chromium workaround used to be the official installation instructions for AdNauseam for Chrome, until Google markef it as malware. And Chromium doesn't even support addons at all on mobile devices
sudosysgen 6y ago
By default, you are I deed right. However, you can use Firefox Nightly and install any extension you want.

lopis 6y ago

It's true that the new Firefox still only has a handful of addons available. But that's still a handful more than Chrome supports.

stjohnswarts 6y ago

That's currently a technical limitation because they haven't built all the infrastructure into their "new" browser to handle all the available plugins and don't want to receive thousands of bug reports they can't do anything about.