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Please don't; this is unethical.

by nfoz 6y ago

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vsnf 6y ago
Another poster also commented on the ethics of this. I'm interested in this view - what about this is unethical? Is it the catfishing aspect? Or is it that you would be exposing various tinder profiles to the world at large? In either of those situations, I can't see how this crosses ethical lines. It is perhaps somewhat dickish, but I don't think being an asshole is unethical. Unless there's some third option of unethicality that I haven't considered?
- nfoz 6y ago
  > but I don't think being an asshole is unethical. Maybe I don't know the right meaning of "ethics", then. But putting bots on dating apps is lying to people on the other side, and hurts them, in a very intimate and personal way. People put time and emotional energy considering their matches and whether to swipe etc, and the resonance of the conversation. So you're polluting that space, both with the catfishing / leading people on, or (more likely) confusing them and making them question themselves / their profile / how to relate to other humans. Is that not unethical to you? Have you talked to people who have been victims of that? My gf was actually quite afraid that I was a bot when we connected; it almost blocked our chance.
StavrosK 6y ago
What's the unethical bit? Making unsuspecting humans parts of a Turing test?
- xaedes 6y ago
  Imagine the bot would be actually good at it and the human on the other side falls in love with it. Only to later find out it was a machine all along. Depending on the mental stability of this human, the results may be devastating. But at least we have a bot that passes a turing test.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    Hmm, good point, thanks.
  - searchableguy 6y ago
    Wonder if we are going to have people in future who would marry chat bots.
trhway 6y ago
do you think autonomous driving is unethical too? According to the currently prevailing view even if a bot does it for you, you're still considered a driver as the bot is just a tool that you're using to accomplish a goal. Or if we just limit the scope to writing - do you think using a tool like grammer.ly is unethical?
throway98752343 6y ago
Is it more unethical than filtering and photoshopping, lying about age and height, and using really old photos?
- nfoz 6y ago
  Yes, because it is all those things (which are bad) and just a bit worse. Do you disagree?
motohagiography 6y ago
In sales it's called lead generation.

Please don't; this is unethical.

by nfoz 6y ago

Please don't; this is unethical.

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vsnf 6y ago

Another poster also commented on the ethics of this. I'm interested in this view - what about this is unethical? Is it the catfishing aspect? Or is it that you would be exposing various tinder profiles to the world at large? In either of those situations, I can't see how this crosses ethical lines. It is perhaps somewhat dickish, but I don't think being an asshole is unethical. Unless there's some third option of unethicality that I haven't considered?

nfoz 6y ago
> but I don't think being an asshole is unethical. Maybe I don't know the right meaning of "ethics", then. But putting bots on dating apps is lying to people on the other side, and hurts them, in a very intimate and personal way. People put time and emotional energy considering their matches and whether to swipe etc, and the resonance of the conversation. So you're polluting that space, both with the catfishing / leading people on, or (more likely) confusing them and making them question themselves / their profile / how to relate to other humans. Is that not unethical to you? Have you talked to people who have been victims of that? My gf was actually quite afraid that I was a bot when we connected; it almost blocked our chance.

StavrosK 6y ago

What's the unethical bit? Making unsuspecting humans parts of a Turing test?

xaedes 6y ago
Imagine the bot would be actually good at it and the human on the other side falls in love with it. Only to later find out it was a machine all along. Depending on the mental stability of this human, the results may be devastating. But at least we have a bot that passes a turing test.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  Hmm, good point, thanks.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  Wonder if we are going to have people in future who would marry chat bots.

trhway 6y ago

do you think autonomous driving is unethical too? According to the currently prevailing view even if a bot does it for you, you're still considered a driver as the bot is just a tool that you're using to accomplish a goal. Or if we just limit the scope to writing - do you think using a tool like grammer.ly is unethical?

throway98752343 6y ago

Is it more unethical than filtering and photoshopping, lying about age and height, and using really old photos?

nfoz 6y ago
Yes, because it is all those things (which are bad) and just a bit worse. Do you disagree?

motohagiography 6y ago

In sales it's called lead generation.