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SSL = TLS version 0.x. Earlier versions of the same thing. Colloquially we still say "SSL" a lot when referring to TLS.

by Legion 6y ago

andrewnicolalde 6y ago
This is one of my greatest pet peeves, hearing people ask for "SSL certificates" and seeing "your payment card information is secured with SSL" at the bottom of websites everywhere. I know it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but man does it make my eye twitch lol.
- totetsu 6y ago
  I recently saw an audio recorder that is marketed as automatically transcribing your meetings and sending the text to an app. As a non-native speaker of the language where I live this was appealing, until I read the FAQ. It said something like "what about security of my data? A: Don't worry all data is transmitted using a secure tsl connection" .. like that was the beginning and end of the data security story for audio recordings of your private meetings.. Some times I thinks this country still being in the paper and fax age is the only thing saving it from it's self..
  - andrewnicolalde 6y ago
    I’m routinely amazed by this too. Honestly when I see that this is the sole privacy or security disclaimer in anything but the most trivial of websites’ FAQ, I run the other way. Nothing on privacy, nothing about storage at rest, nothing about access controls and what customer data staff can access. It just comes across as indicative of a security-through-checkboxing view on security and a “heh, yeah sure buddy” approach to privacy.
- spurgu 6y ago
  Meh, semantics. Lot of things live on. "Save to disk"? Granted hard drives kind of resemble "hard disks" still. TV? There are probably dozens of easily accessible examples for a well rested brain but mine is not. I've tried using TLS instead of SSL but due to the friction of general acceptance of SSL I don't see much point in trying to fight. I wish that TLS 1.4 will be called Transport Security System Layer (TSSL) or something which can be referred to as SSL and we can all go back to normal again. ;)
  - anyfoo 6y ago
    > Granted hard drives kind of resemble "hard disks" still. No, it is a good example by now. A modern M.2 SSD looks much more like a stick of RAM than any kind of spinning disk. Sure, spinning hard disks are still around, and might stick around for quite a while (data centers, archival...), but when someone at their desk says "save on disk" nowadays, it increasingly will be on such an entirely non-disk-looking disk.
    - rswail 6y ago
      I've got boxes of 3D printed versions of the "Save" icon from years ago. They even have aluminium sliding parts and what looks like some sort of disk inside... /s

SSL = TLS version 0.x. Earlier versions of the same thing. Colloquially we still say "SSL" a lot when referring to TLS.

by Legion 6y ago

SSL = TLS version 0.x. Earlier versions of the same thing. Colloquially we still say "SSL" a lot when referring to TLS.

This is one of my greatest pet peeves, hearing people ask for "SSL certificates" and seeing "your payment card information is secured with SSL" at the bottom of websites everywhere. I know it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but man does it make my eye twitch lol.

totetsu 6y ago
I recently saw an audio recorder that is marketed as automatically transcribing your meetings and sending the text to an app. As a non-native speaker of the language where I live this was appealing, until I read the FAQ. It said something like "what about security of my data? A: Don't worry all data is transmitted using a secure tsl connection" .. like that was the beginning and end of the data security story for audio recordings of your private meetings.. Some times I thinks this country still being in the paper and fax age is the only thing saving it from it's self..
- andrewnicolalde 6y ago
  I’m routinely amazed by this too. Honestly when I see that this is the sole privacy or security disclaimer in anything but the most trivial of websites’ FAQ, I run the other way. Nothing on privacy, nothing about storage at rest, nothing about access controls and what customer data staff can access. It just comes across as indicative of a security-through-checkboxing view on security and a “heh, yeah sure buddy” approach to privacy.
spurgu 6y ago
Meh, semantics. Lot of things live on. "Save to disk"? Granted hard drives kind of resemble "hard disks" still. TV? There are probably dozens of easily accessible examples for a well rested brain but mine is not. I've tried using TLS instead of SSL but due to the friction of general acceptance of SSL I don't see much point in trying to fight. I wish that TLS 1.4 will be called Transport Security System Layer (TSSL) or something which can be referred to as SSL and we can all go back to normal again. ;)
- anyfoo 6y ago
  > Granted hard drives kind of resemble "hard disks" still. No, it is a good example by now. A modern M.2 SSD looks much more like a stick of RAM than any kind of spinning disk. Sure, spinning hard disks are still around, and might stick around for quite a while (data centers, archival...), but when someone at their desk says "save on disk" nowadays, it increasingly will be on such an entirely non-disk-looking disk.
  - rswail 6y ago
    I've got boxes of 3D printed versions of the "Save" icon from years ago. They even have aluminium sliding parts and what looks like some sort of disk inside... /s