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Is AMP really that bad? There isn't annoying modals that take over the screen. No ads inject themselves into my scroll. Videos players that work and don't hav

by adrr 6y ago

Is AMP really that bad? There isn't annoying modals that take over the screen. No ads inject themselves into my scroll. Videos players that work and don't have two minutes of prerolls and the main content just buffers forever. I just hate it messes up the url.

Pxtl 6y ago
AMP is an annoying modal that takes over your screen.
skeletal88 6y ago
Yes, I fucking hate it. Every time I search for something on mobile and the result is something from reddit I only get to see only a part of the first post and some of the comments, to read more I have to click "read more". Why would this ever be helpful to anyone? What purpose does it serve other than waste the users time and make him do more clicks? Also - has anyone ever been happy to land on an AMP page, and think, "wow, this is really useful, I'm glad I'm on this weird page, instead of the original one" ?
- RandallBrown 6y ago
  Isn't that reddit's fault? I tend to click on AMP results in searches because they always load so much faster. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I do think that the stated purpose of having an easily cacheable and loadable webpage is a good one.
  - afavour 6y ago
    AMP versions are often inferior because AMP isn’t actually HTML. You can’t even use an <img/> tag. So you have to develop an alternate version of every page for SEO. Inevitably a lot of companies don’t have the resources to actually do that so you end up with half finished, half implemented AMP versions.
  - nanidin 6y ago
    When I click a Reddit link, I expect to be logged in as myself with the ability to vote & comment directly. Instead I land on an easily cacheable page that asks me to download the Reddit app without fail. Reddit is already fast, Reddit does not benefit from AMP - except by putting that "This page looks better in the app!" modal back in the face of people that have otherwise disabled it via their user settings.
    - RandallBrown 6y ago
      I agree with you but that's not AMP's fault is it?
      - nanidin 6y ago
        As far as I understand, when you land on an AMP page, you get the same (cached) page that everyone else gets. Which is basically a shortened version of what you would see if you were not logged in. So while it may not be AMP's fault, AMP enables/encourages the behavior. If the AMP page is showing everyone the same thing, then of course I won't see Reddit with my user settings (old mobileweb, do not ask me about the app, etc), and of course trying to interact with the page will redirect me somewhere else. If I could opt out of AMP to avoid this issue, I would.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
  I don't think the behavior on the actual reddit site is any better on mobile. Especially in the early days I was really happy about the AMP pages, because the publishers haven't yet managed to cram so much garbage into them as they have into their regular pages. I don't need e.g. a sticky video player playing some irrelevant video just to create space for a video ad.
kybernetikos 6y ago
I block a bunch of 3rd party javascript trackers and the like. AMP degrades in a horrible way if you do this - it seems to give me multiple seconds of a completely white page, presumably for no reason other than to punish me. I closed so many amp pages assuming they were broken before realising that they do appear if you leave them long enough.
paxys 6y ago
Other than the usual reasons why everyone hates it, the most frustrating for me is that sharing articles with others used to be super simple (copy address from browser, paste into messaging app), but now I have to hunt for the actual non-AMP URL which is impossible to find.
- fshbbdssbbgdd 6y ago
  That problem is self-inflicted, though. The person you send the link to can use the AMP link just fine.
  - chaps 6y ago
    No, this problem is 100% google-inflicted. This is complacency, fullstop.
sellyme 6y ago
> There isn't annoying modals that take over the screen. No ads inject themselves into my scroll. Videos players that work and don't have two minutes of prerolls and the main content just buffers forever. All of these functions are already served by my adblocker, which does not hijack the URL to do so.
Mindwipe 6y ago
Lol, there are plenty of annoying modals on AMP sites.
- adrr 6y ago
  There’s no method to do a modal on page load in amp. It’s a very controlled set of widgets and actions. It is so sandboxed that Gmail supports amp based emails.

by adrr 6y ago

Pxtl 6y ago

AMP is an annoying modal that takes over your screen.

skeletal88 6y ago

Yes, I fucking hate it. Every time I search for something on mobile and the result is something from reddit I only get to see only a part of the first post and some of the comments, to read more I have to click "read more". Why would this ever be helpful to anyone? What purpose does it serve other than waste the users time and make him do more clicks? Also - has anyone ever been happy to land on an AMP page, and think, "wow, this is really useful, I'm glad I'm on this weird page, instead of the original one" ?

RandallBrown 6y ago
Isn't that reddit's fault? I tend to click on AMP results in searches because they always load so much faster. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I do think that the stated purpose of having an easily cacheable and loadable webpage is a good one.
- afavour 6y ago
  AMP versions are often inferior because AMP isn’t actually HTML. You can’t even use an <img/> tag. So you have to develop an alternate version of every page for SEO. Inevitably a lot of companies don’t have the resources to actually do that so you end up with half finished, half implemented AMP versions.
- nanidin 6y ago
  When I click a Reddit link, I expect to be logged in as myself with the ability to vote & comment directly. Instead I land on an easily cacheable page that asks me to download the Reddit app without fail. Reddit is already fast, Reddit does not benefit from AMP - except by putting that "This page looks better in the app!" modal back in the face of people that have otherwise disabled it via their user settings.
  - RandallBrown 6y ago
    I agree with you but that's not AMP's fault is it?
    - nanidin 6y ago
      As far as I understand, when you land on an AMP page, you get the same (cached) page that everyone else gets. Which is basically a shortened version of what you would see if you were not logged in. So while it may not be AMP's fault, AMP enables/encourages the behavior. If the AMP page is showing everyone the same thing, then of course I won't see Reddit with my user settings (old mobileweb, do not ask me about the app, etc), and of course trying to interact with the page will redirect me somewhere else. If I could opt out of AMP to avoid this issue, I would.
tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
I don't think the behavior on the actual reddit site is any better on mobile. Especially in the early days I was really happy about the AMP pages, because the publishers haven't yet managed to cram so much garbage into them as they have into their regular pages. I don't need e.g. a sticky video player playing some irrelevant video just to create space for a video ad.

kybernetikos 6y ago

I block a bunch of 3rd party javascript trackers and the like. AMP degrades in a horrible way if you do this - it seems to give me multiple seconds of a completely white page, presumably for no reason other than to punish me. I closed so many amp pages assuming they were broken before realising that they do appear if you leave them long enough.

paxys 6y ago

Other than the usual reasons why everyone hates it, the most frustrating for me is that sharing articles with others used to be super simple (copy address from browser, paste into messaging app), but now I have to hunt for the actual non-AMP URL which is impossible to find.

fshbbdssbbgdd 6y ago
That problem is self-inflicted, though. The person you send the link to can use the AMP link just fine.
- chaps 6y ago
  No, this problem is 100% google-inflicted. This is complacency, fullstop.

sellyme 6y ago

> There isn't annoying modals that take over the screen. No ads inject themselves into my scroll. Videos players that work and don't have two minutes of prerolls and the main content just buffers forever. All of these functions are already served by my adblocker, which does not hijack the URL to do so.

Mindwipe 6y ago

Lol, there are plenty of annoying modals on AMP sites.

adrr 6y ago
There’s no method to do a modal on page load in amp. It’s a very controlled set of widgets and actions. It is so sandboxed that Gmail supports amp based emails.