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The UN is to international peace what the FIFA is to soccer: Somewhat involved in nurturing it to a higher level, although that would have happened without it a

The UN is to international peace what the FIFA is to soccer: Somewhat involved in nurturing it to a higher level, although that would have happened without it anyway. Beyond that completely devolved into a curruption feast. Look no further than what entities made it into the current "UN human rights council": Usbekistan, Cuba, Russia and China. And its not a coincidence: Prior to them Sudan, Lybia, Mauretania, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela got to be the Champions of Human Rights. A complete joke. Meanwhile the same UN issued more condemnations of the democratic state of Israel than of all other nations combined (2006-2015: 61 against Israel, 54 all others, none against China).

GekkePrutser 6y ago
Indeed, that human rights thing in particular is a total joke. I'm sure those awards were the result of some kind of negotiation but by doing this the UN just completely undermines itself in the public eye.
sofixa 6y ago
> Meanwhile the same UN issued more condemnations of the democratic state of Israel than of all other nations combined (2006-2015: 61 against Israel, 54 all others, none against China). I don't see what democracy has to do with it. Plenty of democratic countries have and still do violate human rights, and Israel is particularly egregious. Maybe the UN considers they have more authority/clout over Israel than Myanmar? Maybe it's due to this usually happening via the General Assembly, where there are quite a lot of Muslim countries who have a bone to pick with Israel by default, so jump at any opportunity ( and there are plenty of them)?
- idownvoted 6y ago
  > Israel is particularly egregious Of course you won't delight us with any facts that prove your anti-semitic statement, will you? Does Israel put Palestinians into Gulags ("Re-Education Camps") like China does? Does it jail people for voicing their opinion like Cuba and Venezuela do, or kills them if they pray to the wrong god or love the wrong gender? Surely you will back your statement up, with enough data, that explains how Israel is more evil than all the atrocities mentioned above combined (eg "2006-2015: 61 against Israel, 54 all others, none against China"). Surely.
  - sofixa 6y ago
    Of course any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism, how could it not be? My phrase should be read as "particularly egregious between democratic countries", sorry if that was not clear. If you need examples of Israeli human rights violations, the illegal occupation of the Golan heights, illegal settlements in the West Bank, murder of Palestinian civilians, the de facto open air prison state of Gaza should be good starters. If you're willing to go to when it started, look up the assassination of Count Bernadotte and various massacres of the time - Israel has been violating human rights and international law since its very inception. Sometimes there are mitigating circumstances ( like the Golan heights, it's a strategic place and obviously Syria doesn't intend to play nice) or the operations against Eichmann or at Entebbe.

GekkePrutser 6y ago

Indeed, that human rights thing in particular is a total joke. I'm sure those awards were the result of some kind of negotiation but by doing this the UN just completely undermines itself in the public eye.

sofixa 6y ago

> Meanwhile the same UN issued more condemnations of the democratic state of Israel than of all other nations combined (2006-2015: 61 against Israel, 54 all others, none against China). I don't see what democracy has to do with it. Plenty of democratic countries have and still do violate human rights, and Israel is particularly egregious. Maybe the UN considers they have more authority/clout over Israel than Myanmar? Maybe it's due to this usually happening via the General Assembly, where there are quite a lot of Muslim countries who have a bone to pick with Israel by default, so jump at any opportunity ( and there are plenty of them)?

idownvoted 6y ago
> Israel is particularly egregious Of course you won't delight us with any facts that prove your anti-semitic statement, will you? Does Israel put Palestinians into Gulags ("Re-Education Camps") like China does? Does it jail people for voicing their opinion like Cuba and Venezuela do, or kills them if they pray to the wrong god or love the wrong gender? Surely you will back your statement up, with enough data, that explains how Israel is more evil than all the atrocities mentioned above combined (eg "2006-2015: 61 against Israel, 54 all others, none against China"). Surely.
- sofixa 6y ago
  Of course any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism, how could it not be? My phrase should be read as "particularly egregious between democratic countries", sorry if that was not clear. If you need examples of Israeli human rights violations, the illegal occupation of the Golan heights, illegal settlements in the West Bank, murder of Palestinian civilians, the de facto open air prison state of Gaza should be good starters. If you're willing to go to when it started, look up the assassination of Count Bernadotte and various massacres of the time - Israel has been violating human rights and international law since its very inception. Sometimes there are mitigating circumstances ( like the Golan heights, it's a strategic place and obviously Syria doesn't intend to play nice) or the operations against Eichmann or at Entebbe.