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Picking specifically on the claim that IPv6 doesn't degrade user privacy. In an IPv4 + NAT overload residential network, google can see 10 different accounts l
by oarsinsync 6y ago
Picking specifically on the claim that IPv6 doesn't degrade user privacy.
In an IPv4 + NAT overload residential network, google can see 10 different accounts logging in from a single IP address.
In an IPv6 + privacy-extention-addressing residential network, google can see the unique IPv6 used for each address, and concludes that since five of these 10 accounts are coming from the same IPv6 address, and the other five are coming from five different distinct addresses.
That's more than it was able to glean before.
IPv6 was designed at a time when NAT was a hack to extend address space, before we had pervasive surveillance on the internet. IPv6 privacy extension addressing is a hack to try and address the fact that we now have pervasive surveillence on the internet.
Privacy properties of IPv4 NAT overloading was by chance rather than by design, but tragically the IPv6 privacy extentions are worse by design, than by chance.
- dcow 6y agoYou're not wrong.. but honestly I don't understand what people expect when _browsing the internet_. If "all my household devices come from the same IP" is a privacy requirement for you then you're always going to need NAT. And the advantage of your scenario disappears if any of those devices actually communicate with google's servers because then you can profile the requests, look at user agent, probably get different tokens, etc. Your nit seems so marginal to me I don't understand how championing this type of privacy paranoia is beneficial for internet technology. If you're worried about google seeing your traffic the answer is simple: don't send it to them.