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> No one is saying transition is a "regrettable outcome". Actually a lot of people say that, cf rhetoric about "a lifetime of hormones and surgery". As someone
by howinteresting 6y ago
> No one is saying transition is a "regrettable outcome".
Actually a lot of people say that, cf rhetoric about "a lifetime of hormones and surgery". As someone who has had surgeries and expects to be on hormones for the rest of their life, I think what I did to my body was good, not bad.
- slibhb 6y agoYou are universalizing your lived experience. This invalidates the lived experiences of other people, who differ from you. Ironically, misapplication of moral universalizing is what leads people to be bigoted against trans people in the first place.
- howinteresting 6y agoYou are still incorrect about no one calling transition a regrettable outcome.
- dandellion 6y agoWhen they say: > No one is saying transition is a "regrettable outcome". It's safe to assume it's meant in the context of the ongoing thread. Not as in "No on in the world is ever saying that", but "No one here has said such thing". It's better to direct your arguments to an individual in the thread, not an official representative of the collective internet.
- StargazyPi 6y agoBut wouldn't the experiences of an actual trans person be much more relevant to this discussion than our cis asses? We're never going to have experiences of our own that can inform our judgement on this, so shouldn't we just listen to and trust trans people to work out how to best to make their way in the world?
- zozbot234 6y agoMore relevant than the experience of a single cis person? Quite possible. More relevant than actual hard data reflecting the collective experiences of a large plurality of trans folk, with relevant variation in such factors as e.g. age and social milieus? No way.
- krrrh 6y agoAn important example of where debate and information can be foreclosed upon is that /r/detrans, a vital support community for detransitioners, has been temporarily banned in the past by overzealous admins, and the mods had to appeal and institute much stricter moderation than most subs have to be able to get it back up.
- Taurenking 6y agodilate
- howinteresting 6y agoI realize you're a troll trying to bait me, but dilation is not something I have to do as a result of my surgeries, no.
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