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> Linux proc is a mess. Plan 9 proc is just that, the interface to running processes. There's no stupid stuff like /proc/cpuinfo. wtf is that doing in there? ht

> Linux proc is a mess. Plan 9 proc is just that, the interface to running processes. There's no stupid stuff like /proc/cpuinfo. wtf is that doing in there? http://man.postnix.pw/plan_9/3/proc http://man.postnix.pw/plan_9/3/proc Do you think Plan 9 /proc would have remained as "clean" over time if it were as popular as Linux? One thing that seems to be something of an axiom is that popular interfaces become messy over time. The location of /proc/cpuinfo seems to be an individual act of vandalism rather than being due to fundamental differences in underlying philosophy/approach.

MisterTea 6y ago
> Do you think Plan 9 /proc would have remained as "clean" over time if it were as popular as Linux? If people are allowed to submit "functionality" patches ad-hoc with little to no scrutiny or thought, then yes, any project will become a mess. The general approach taken by plan 9 maintainers is to question functionality/feature patches and ask "Who does this benefit?" If the answer is only the submitter or rare edge cases then the patch is rejected. If the patch benefits a large audience, then it is accepted. But to be fair, Linux is hammered on by large corps who's only goal is to make money by vomiting webshit from Linux servers. They don't care about simplicity, technical details, correctness, or anything like that, so long as it increases their bottom line. From my point of view the Linux I came to love is long dead.
- zokula 6y ago
  Seems like you never loved the Linux in the first place, since Linux now is what Linux has always been.
thesuitonym 6y ago
>Do you think Plan 9 /proc would have remained as "clean" over time if it were as popular as Linux? A lot of the appeal of Plan 9 is that it's not widely used, and so has remained opinionated. It's not a general use operating system. It's a research operating system.

MisterTea 6y ago

> Do you think Plan 9 /proc would have remained as "clean" over time if it were as popular as Linux? If people are allowed to submit "functionality" patches ad-hoc with little to no scrutiny or thought, then yes, any project will become a mess. The general approach taken by plan 9 maintainers is to question functionality/feature patches and ask "Who does this benefit?" If the answer is only the submitter or rare edge cases then the patch is rejected. If the patch benefits a large audience, then it is accepted. But to be fair, Linux is hammered on by large corps who's only goal is to make money by vomiting webshit from Linux servers. They don't care about simplicity, technical details, correctness, or anything like that, so long as it increases their bottom line. From my point of view the Linux I came to love is long dead.

zokula 6y ago
Seems like you never loved the Linux in the first place, since Linux now is what Linux has always been.

thesuitonym 6y ago

>Do you think Plan 9 /proc would have remained as "clean" over time if it were as popular as Linux? A lot of the appeal of Plan 9 is that it's not widely used, and so has remained opinionated. It's not a general use operating system. It's a research operating system.