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178MB/s is under 1.5 gb/s. It’s only because we’ve been stuck with slow gigabit Ethernet for 20 years that we think this is a hard problem. 10G ethernet can do

178MB/s is under 1.5 gb/s. It’s only because we’ve been stuck with slow gigabit Ethernet for 20 years that we think this is a hard problem. 10G ethernet can do it no problem and fractional speed like the 2.5 and 5 gigabit standards should have little issue as well.

dale_glass 6y ago
I concur that it sucks that Ethernet is in a rut for some reason. But even on 10G that's no picnic. Sure, that works for a single user, but add a few more people and it's not hard to run into trouble. Such a system can't for instance just drop frames when the network is overloaded which to me makes this more of a curiosity than something anybody would actually want to use in practice.
- jdsully 6y ago
  10G switches are old hat and can do full x-bar switching at 10G, unless your using very old tech got off ebay you shouldn't have issues. Trunk lines of 100G and higher are pretty common in core networks now, if your big enough to span a single switch. The main limit was we had trouble doing 10G over cat-5e copper with long distances. 2.5/5 solve that problem and 10g is possible with cat-6. Fibre has no issue with super high rates for network backhauls to aggregate all that traffic. With the exception of the copper standards all of this has been roled out in the datacenter for years and is pretty mature.
mjevans 6y ago
I've speculated it's the patents on 10G over copper holding us back. IIRC we're just about at the point where the early over fiber modes are off patent in the US. However the 10G (over copper) encoding format uses a complex forward error correction encoding that is a bit energy intensive, it also adds some latency. A smaller silicon production node and this being used outside of SERIOUSLY EXPENSIVE for pro-sumers / medium businesses would instigate a drop via commodity.

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178MB/s is under 1.5 gb/s. It’s only because we’ve been stuck with slow gigabit Ethernet for 20 years that we think this is a hard problem. 10G ethernet can do

by jdsully 6y ago

dale_glass 6y ago
I concur that it sucks that Ethernet is in a rut for some reason. But even on 10G that's no picnic. Sure, that works for a single user, but add a few more people and it's not hard to run into trouble. Such a system can't for instance just drop frames when the network is overloaded which to me makes this more of a curiosity than something anybody would actually want to use in practice.
- jdsully 6y ago
  10G switches are old hat and can do full x-bar switching at 10G, unless your using very old tech got off ebay you shouldn't have issues. Trunk lines of 100G and higher are pretty common in core networks now, if your big enough to span a single switch. The main limit was we had trouble doing 10G over cat-5e copper with long distances. 2.5/5 solve that problem and 10g is possible with cat-6. Fibre has no issue with super high rates for network backhauls to aggregate all that traffic. With the exception of the copper standards all of this has been roled out in the datacenter for years and is pretty mature.
mjevans 6y ago
I've speculated it's the patents on 10G over copper holding us back. IIRC we're just about at the point where the early over fiber modes are off patent in the US. However the 10G (over copper) encoding format uses a complex forward error correction encoding that is a bit energy intensive, it also adds some latency. A smaller silicon production node and this being used outside of SERIOUSLY EXPENSIVE for pro-sumers / medium businesses would instigate a drop via commodity.