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In many ways its harder to see something through water than it is to see it through rock. Ground-penetrating microwave radar can get through tens of meters of
by hwillis 6y ago
In many ways its harder to see something through water than it is to see it through rock. Ground-penetrating microwave radar can get through tens of meters of quartz but centimeters of water. VLF and ULF penetrate 10-100x farther through the ground than through seawater. The frequencies that can penetrate more than a few hundred meters of water are around the same as the ones powering your lights. Antennas at those frequencies are miles long. You need special, non-conductive soils and bedrock to make them work. In short it's a real pain in the butt.
After 200 meters the ocean is practically opaque. Objects much deeper than that are reflecting a handful of photons. Below 500-1000 meters you're talking about photons per second at the surface.
Water is one of a quite small number of general radiation absorbers. To block alpha/beta/gamma radiation you need pure density- more mass per volume to slow down high energy particles. You can use heavy atoms like lead or uranium, or very densely packed lighter atoms. Neutron radiation is different- the actual number of atoms per volume is critical to maximizing the number of scattering events. That means you use things like polymers- hydrocarbons, so you have as many small atoms (hydrogen) in a volume as possible. Water is one of the denser liquids, while still being 11% hydrogen by mass, vs 14% for pure polyethylene. That makes it quite good.
Even sound isn't great underwater, relatively speaking- being a fluid in motion, there's a constantly-changing distortion on everything. The thermal conductivity also means thermal signatures spread out quickly.
- mr_overalls 6y agoWater is a poor medium for photons, but a great one for sound. That's why the US and other countries surveil the seas with linked arrays of underwater microphones, i.e. the Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS). https://fas.org/irp/program/collect/iuss.htm https://fas.org/irp/program/collect/iuss.htm