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> doing no harm to other people This is not true. It gives children a false impression of what sex is like in reality. I don't need a scientific paper to tell

by nvoid 6y ago

> doing no harm to other people This is not true. It gives children a false impression of what sex is like in reality. I don't need a scientific paper to tell me that children looking at this stuff is bad. The rise in the number of incelibates around the world is dangerous and it must be due to the wide availability of pron. Just take a look at what's happening in Japan. Parents who don't want their children viewing this kind of thing can't block all the 18+ discord servers. (Although I personally don't think kids should be using Discord given the amount of grooming that goes on).

swat535 6y ago
Yet another think of the children argument here. Should we also purge all graphic gaming content from discord and ban action movies because they give a false impression of what real world is like? Further it’s the parents job to supervise their children and not the corporation. In addition one would think that your little 10 year old shouldn’t be playing GTA 5 on discord in the first place and that is more disturbing than seeing a naked boob. American’s attitude towards sexuality and nudity is quite conservative if you ask me.
- ttt0 6y ago
  "Think of the children" is a valid argument. I don't know if there are more in-depth studies, but this study hints that the average age of first exposure to porn is at around 13 years old and the youngest being 5: https://archive.is/PfJd9#selection-429.17-429.66 https://archive.is/PfJd9#selection-429.17-429.66 We've taught children myths, legends and now cartoons and comic book heroes for centuries, that is fine. What isn't fine is exposing them to pornography at such young age. When you're addicted to pornography you progressively seek more and more hardcore stuff, as anything milder doesn't do the trick anymore. If you want a population full of sex offenders, then go ahead.
  - kayodelycaon 6y ago
    In the US, the rates of sexual violence and violence in general has been decreasing year over year despite the estimated reporting percentage of rape increasing. If anything, the accessibility of pornography is reducing violence.
kayodelycaon 6y ago
> It gives children a false impression of what sex is like in reality. So does every other part of American culture. I'm throughly unmoved that producing adult material in an artistic sense is harmful to society. (None of the communities I'm in allow photo or videos. Or minors. We ban them when we find them.) Such things have always existed and have always been a part of human culture, despite various moral panics. The assumption that incelibatity is due to pornography is unproven. The Japanese birth rate started dropping in the 1950s, well before this could be a factor.

by nvoid 6y ago

swat535 6y ago

Yet another think of the children argument here. Should we also purge all graphic gaming content from discord and ban action movies because they give a false impression of what real world is like? Further it’s the parents job to supervise their children and not the corporation. In addition one would think that your little 10 year old shouldn’t be playing GTA 5 on discord in the first place and that is more disturbing than seeing a naked boob. American’s attitude towards sexuality and nudity is quite conservative if you ask me.

ttt0 6y ago
"Think of the children" is a valid argument. I don't know if there are more in-depth studies, but this study hints that the average age of first exposure to porn is at around 13 years old and the youngest being 5: https://archive.is/PfJd9#selection-429.17-429.66 https://archive.is/PfJd9#selection-429.17-429.66 We've taught children myths, legends and now cartoons and comic book heroes for centuries, that is fine. What isn't fine is exposing them to pornography at such young age. When you're addicted to pornography you progressively seek more and more hardcore stuff, as anything milder doesn't do the trick anymore. If you want a population full of sex offenders, then go ahead.
- kayodelycaon 6y ago
  In the US, the rates of sexual violence and violence in general has been decreasing year over year despite the estimated reporting percentage of rape increasing. If anything, the accessibility of pornography is reducing violence.

kayodelycaon 6y ago

> It gives children a false impression of what sex is like in reality. So does every other part of American culture. I'm throughly unmoved that producing adult material in an artistic sense is harmful to society. (None of the communities I'm in allow photo or videos. Or minors. We ban them when we find them.) Such things have always existed and have always been a part of human culture, despite various moral panics. The assumption that incelibatity is due to pornography is unproven. The Japanese birth rate started dropping in the 1950s, well before this could be a factor.