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I think you are genuinely curious. The point here is, people are confident that they can do the job, just can't pass the interview. The purpose of the interview
by newswasboring 6y ago
I think you are genuinely curious. The point here is, people are confident that they can do the job, just can't pass the interview. The purpose of the interview is to select someone to do the job, not to pass the interview. "Preparing for the interview" is chasing the wrong KPI for both parties. Companies don't want someone who can pass the interview, they want someone who can do the job, they are not the same things.
- mytailorisrich 6y agoHowever confident people are hat they can do the job the point of the interview is to convince the recruiters. That's the game and the recruiting company sets the rules.
- newswasboring 6y agoThats the point though. The recruiting company rules seem to be suboptimal and infact optimizing for something unrelated to that job. Edit: Fun example. Its like recruiting companies are trying to hire for the next big chess tournament and their criteria is how fast someone can win practice end game scenarios. It might seem fine on the surface, but the truth is end game is only 10% of the game.
- musingsole 6y ago> to convince the recruiters. The employer is the one with a skills need. Arguably, I'm in need of resources. However, coding shops are a dime a dozen. I know I can build and ship software. I've proven it to get where I am today. I'm not too interested in proving it to someone who will forget my name in a week. I've also proven I can lazily apply to places, ignore interviews with this coding challenge mess, and pay attention to the shops that actually talk to me about my strengths and their needs before anyone opens a CLI. So, is there a STEM shortage? If yes, then the recruiters and companies are the ones hurt by the 'convince the recruiters' mindset. If there isn't, then I'm hurt by being less competitive. Who knows what the future will look like, but despite all the language and shenanigans to the contrary, I know my company needs me more than I need it.
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- arwhatever 6y agoThe recruiting company sets the rules for their own interview process, and most developers have an abundance of companies to choose from.
- Salgat 6y agoObviously, the whole complaint is that the rules they set are a poor indicator of future employee performance. Yeah, they can set a rule that whoever is the most physically attractive gets the job, but again, it's a very poor indicator of employee performance. Do you follow?
- PunchTornado 6y agoidk, seems to me weird to go to an interview without preparing for days/weeks for it.
- monsieurbanana 6y agoIt doesn't seem weird to you that the skills you need to prepare for the interview have nothing to do with what the job actually entails?
- freewilly1040 6y agoSome delta between these two is true of all professions. How is the employer supposed to know what your skills are? Assessing this is a skill and there are only badly flawed tools available.
- newswasboring 6y agoEvery time this kind of argument is made, I am tempted to remind people that all other professions do without this kind of thing (except finance I think). But then I remember only FAANG type companies require skills, bridges are built by randomly selected people.
- freewilly1040 6y agoAnd those fields will have plenty of capable people who don't get a shot with the best firms because they didn't go to the right schools, or know the right people, or use the right buzzwords on their resume. The coding screen is a less dirty shirt in a pile of dirty laundry. At least it's an objective measurement, even if it doesn't measure precisely the right thing.