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That's pretty cool

pcthrowaway 6y ago
Care to elaborate? I felt strongly the opposite. It makes me more eager to move away from SQLite. I'm very far from religious, and this seems to be very strongly suggesting atheism is synonymous with immorality.
- delian66 6y ago
  So? Who cares what a throwaway account thinks or feels? You are free to not use it.
  - muthdra 6y ago
    Gatekeeping internet account lifetimes.
  - boublepop 6y ago
    I care, and think it was a good addition to the discussion. Your post however is of no value at all. You are free to disagree about the argued points, but nothing is gained by you trying to argue others should not be allowed to engage in the discussion simply because they decided to use a throwaway.
    - gerhardhaering 6y ago
      I agree very much with you.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  The document is being sarcastic. However, be thankful for religion, with its absolutes, over the Marxist ideology being promoted in the West today, which has no morality.
- xyzzy123 6y ago
  > No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea. The Founder of SQLite believes that anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life, but individuals are free to dispute or ignore that advice if they wish.
- pwgentleman 6y ago
  Maybe that says more about you than about the document authors, or the document itself. They have gone through the trouble of changing this from a Code of Conduct to a Code of Ethics, for the specific purpose of avoiding quarreling (their rule 66). You want to move away from SQLite just because you heard some developers are religious. I really prefer their attitude towards disagreement.
  - pcthrowaway 6y ago
    No, actually I have no issue with people being religious. I have plenty of religious friends who hail from many religions, and are very open-minded and loving towards others with different beliefs. This "Code" isn't saying that this is what the founder believes, and that they would like others to follow it. It's making a pretty unequivocal statement that the founder (and developers) believe that this is the "better" way to live: "Anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life" First of all, this is really unrelated to software or the utility of sqlite. But then we have "The founder of SQLite and all current developers have pledged to follow the spirit of The Rule to the best of their ability. They view The Rule as their promise to all SQLite users of how the developers are expected to behave" Well then, this is a pretty strong statement of their intention to limit the pool of sqlite contributors to those who follow this rule. "But sqlite is open source" you might think... but here's what they say: > SQLite is open-source, meaning that you can make as many copies of it as you want and do whatever you want with those copies, without limitation. But SQLite is not open-contribution. In order to keep SQLite in the public domain and ensure that the code does not become contaminated(!!) with proprietary or licensed content, the project does not accept patches from unknown persons ... > In order to keep SQLite completely free and unencumbered by copyright, the project does not accept patches. If you would like to make a suggested change, and include a patch as a proof-of-concept, that would be great. However please do not be offended if we rewrite your patch from scratch." So this is all news to me, and I think it's a pretty terrible way to run an open source project, or any project really. I wouldn't work at a company that had this rule. If the rule said "1. Only have sexual relations with people of the opposite sex, in the context of marriage" I suspect many people would wash their hands of it completely. But really, they've done a great job with sqlite as a piece of software, so kudos to the dogmatic yet exclusive group of authors for their work and dedication. In the meantime, I would be thrilled to see another file-based relational db take its place
- gerhardhaering 6y ago
  This would not affect my decicion to use SQLite, which is still my choice for quick database setups. Not saying that they did it here, but the notion that atheism is synonymous with immorality would be absurd. It is usually quite the opposite, most orthodox religion leads to immorality due to the simple fact that it applies codes that might maybe have made sense centuries or millenia ago to modern day societies.
- PhantomGremlin 6y ago
  It makes me more eager to move away from SQLite. Why? On another page I find: SQLite Is Public Domain All of the code and documentation in SQLite has been dedicated to the public domain by the authors. All code authors, and representatives of the companies they work for, have signed affidavits dedicating their contributions to the public domain https://sqlite.org/copyright.html https://sqlite.org/copyright.html Given that I'm free to do absolutely whatever I want with the code, why should I be seriously concerned about their code of ethics?
- deleted 6y ago
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That's pretty cool

Care to elaborate? I felt strongly the opposite. It makes me more eager to move away from SQLite. I'm very far from religious, and this seems to be very strongly suggesting atheism is synonymous with immorality.

delian66 6y ago
So? Who cares what a throwaway account thinks or feels? You are free to not use it.
- muthdra 6y ago
  Gatekeeping internet account lifetimes.
- boublepop 6y ago
  I care, and think it was a good addition to the discussion. Your post however is of no value at all. You are free to disagree about the argued points, but nothing is gained by you trying to argue others should not be allowed to engage in the discussion simply because they decided to use a throwaway.
  - gerhardhaering 6y ago
    I agree very much with you.
redis_mlc 6y ago
The document is being sarcastic. However, be thankful for religion, with its absolutes, over the Marxist ideology being promoted in the West today, which has no morality.
xyzzy123 6y ago
> No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea. The Founder of SQLite believes that anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life, but individuals are free to dispute or ignore that advice if they wish.
pwgentleman 6y ago
Maybe that says more about you than about the document authors, or the document itself. They have gone through the trouble of changing this from a Code of Conduct to a Code of Ethics, for the specific purpose of avoiding quarreling (their rule 66). You want to move away from SQLite just because you heard some developers are religious. I really prefer their attitude towards disagreement.
- pcthrowaway 6y ago
  No, actually I have no issue with people being religious. I have plenty of religious friends who hail from many religions, and are very open-minded and loving towards others with different beliefs. This "Code" isn't saying that this is what the founder believes, and that they would like others to follow it. It's making a pretty unequivocal statement that the founder (and developers) believe that this is the "better" way to live: "Anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life" First of all, this is really unrelated to software or the utility of sqlite. But then we have "The founder of SQLite and all current developers have pledged to follow the spirit of The Rule to the best of their ability. They view The Rule as their promise to all SQLite users of how the developers are expected to behave" Well then, this is a pretty strong statement of their intention to limit the pool of sqlite contributors to those who follow this rule. "But sqlite is open source" you might think... but here's what they say: > SQLite is open-source, meaning that you can make as many copies of it as you want and do whatever you want with those copies, without limitation. But SQLite is not open-contribution. In order to keep SQLite in the public domain and ensure that the code does not become contaminated(!!) with proprietary or licensed content, the project does not accept patches from unknown persons ... > In order to keep SQLite completely free and unencumbered by copyright, the project does not accept patches. If you would like to make a suggested change, and include a patch as a proof-of-concept, that would be great. However please do not be offended if we rewrite your patch from scratch." So this is all news to me, and I think it's a pretty terrible way to run an open source project, or any project really. I wouldn't work at a company that had this rule. If the rule said "1. Only have sexual relations with people of the opposite sex, in the context of marriage" I suspect many people would wash their hands of it completely. But really, they've done a great job with sqlite as a piece of software, so kudos to the dogmatic yet exclusive group of authors for their work and dedication. In the meantime, I would be thrilled to see another file-based relational db take its place
gerhardhaering 6y ago
This would not affect my decicion to use SQLite, which is still my choice for quick database setups. Not saying that they did it here, but the notion that atheism is synonymous with immorality would be absurd. It is usually quite the opposite, most orthodox religion leads to immorality due to the simple fact that it applies codes that might maybe have made sense centuries or millenia ago to modern day societies.
PhantomGremlin 6y ago
It makes me more eager to move away from SQLite. Why? On another page I find: SQLite Is Public Domain All of the code and documentation in SQLite has been dedicated to the public domain by the authors. All code authors, and representatives of the companies they work for, have signed affidavits dedicating their contributions to the public domain https://sqlite.org/copyright.html https://sqlite.org/copyright.html Given that I'm free to do absolutely whatever I want with the code, why should I be seriously concerned about their code of ethics?
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