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Not that LulzSec has made sense up until now but why bother taking out online video games? I feel like that's alienating the population that would normally supp

Not that LulzSec has made sense up until now but why bother taking out online video games? I feel like that's alienating the population that would normally support or at least be indifferent about a group like LulzSec.

Roritharr 15y ago
Not to be too cheezy, but i'd like to quote The Dark Knight here: "Some men just want to watch the world burn."
- pspeter3 15y ago
  Valid point and a great quote. It's just hard to believe such people exist outside the realm of comic books.
  - hammock 15y ago
    Think of the Lulzsec activities as more of an art than an act of vandalism. (Most taggers/spray painters feel the same way, and are also known to deface their own stomping grounds) edit to the downvoters: I'm not defending their actions, just putting myself in their frame of mind
    - Overd0se 15y ago
      The do because they can. and the immense butthurt of the gamers is music to their ears.
  - DrJ 15y ago
    they are also called trolls, sometimes they have a lighter, sometimes they don't.
  - Jach 15y ago
    The clinical term is "Antisocial personality disorder" and such people need help.
  - Apocryphon 15y ago
    The internet brings out the worst in people.
    - sorbus 15y ago
      Pseudo-anonymity brings out the worst in people, rather. (Or: If there is no risk of being punched in the face or otherwise given a strong physical disincentive, then behavior tends to deteriorate.)
      - wladimir 15y ago
        Pseudo-anonymity also brings out the best in people, such as unbounded creativity. The spread is very large.
  - bermanoid 15y ago
    There's something that's just...well, for lack of a better word, special, about being the on the same playing field as everyone else, but working under a completely different set of rules and deciding for yourself how the game is scored. The best example I can give is how my brother used to grief Counterstrike on TK-enabled servers - he didn't do this by killing his own teammates, or by cheating against the other team. Rather, he would lure his teammates into killing him often enough that they got auto-banned from the server; his rationale was that everyone was too freaking good at CS anyways, might as well make the game more interesting and difficult for himself, at least. :) When you decide for yourself which game you're actually playing, sometimes the lulz are just too tasty to resist... That said, DDoSing a bunch of game servers for games that are completely unrelated and haven't done anything in particular worthy of retaliation is moronic. There's no poetry there, just a bunch of children playing around with the 2011 equivalent of AOHell (and yes, I realize that most of them are probably to young to even know WTF I'm talking about).
- mindstab 15y ago
  It's seems like they are almost a caricature. Maybe they really are, or see my conspiracy theory http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2655040 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2655040
  - wladimir 15y ago
    Agreed. It looks very much like a front, or weird viral/marketing operation. Not sure it is by a government but that'd be possible. They piss off literally everybody, and don't even have the remote resemblance of anything like ethics. Smells like a caricature. They hack company after company in such a short time, are very vocal and cocky about it, but still manage to not make mistakes and get caught. "Too good to be true" rings a bell? Maybe they're trying to lure people in somehow? I couldn't even guess what the goal is, but it's weird.
itg 15y ago
They were taking requests for ddos targets. I don't think they care who they piss off since it is all about the " lulz" to them.
- dexen 15y ago
  > UPDATE: The group now claims to have taken down the League of Legends login servers as well as eight other sites requested by users phoning in. Their claim is to have taken on phone-in DRM that pissed off users -- to the point the users wished the servers to crash and burn. Pretty much similar reasoning to Sony hacks, if you ask me...
redthrowaway 15y ago
They don't care. They're doing to to amuse themselves. That's really all it is. No overarching strategy or cause, just lulz.
Goladus 15y ago
I think they want to project power. I don't think they want anyone to be indifferent about them. Beyond that, it's almost impossible to know their motivations.
- hugh3 15y ago
  Think "Revenge of the Nerds" if it were a horror movie instead of a comedy.

Roritharr 15y ago

Not to be too cheezy, but i'd like to quote The Dark Knight here: "Some men just want to watch the world burn."

pspeter3 15y ago
Valid point and a great quote. It's just hard to believe such people exist outside the realm of comic books.
- hammock 15y ago
  Think of the Lulzsec activities as more of an art than an act of vandalism. (Most taggers/spray painters feel the same way, and are also known to deface their own stomping grounds) edit to the downvoters: I'm not defending their actions, just putting myself in their frame of mind
  - Overd0se 15y ago
    The do because they can. and the immense butthurt of the gamers is music to their ears.
- DrJ 15y ago
  they are also called trolls, sometimes they have a lighter, sometimes they don't.
- Jach 15y ago
  The clinical term is "Antisocial personality disorder" and such people need help.
- Apocryphon 15y ago
  The internet brings out the worst in people.
  - sorbus 15y ago
    Pseudo-anonymity brings out the worst in people, rather. (Or: If there is no risk of being punched in the face or otherwise given a strong physical disincentive, then behavior tends to deteriorate.)
    - wladimir 15y ago
      Pseudo-anonymity also brings out the best in people, such as unbounded creativity. The spread is very large.
- bermanoid 15y ago
  There's something that's just...well, for lack of a better word, special, about being the on the same playing field as everyone else, but working under a completely different set of rules and deciding for yourself how the game is scored. The best example I can give is how my brother used to grief Counterstrike on TK-enabled servers - he didn't do this by killing his own teammates, or by cheating against the other team. Rather, he would lure his teammates into killing him often enough that they got auto-banned from the server; his rationale was that everyone was too freaking good at CS anyways, might as well make the game more interesting and difficult for himself, at least. :) When you decide for yourself which game you're actually playing, sometimes the lulz are just too tasty to resist... That said, DDoSing a bunch of game servers for games that are completely unrelated and haven't done anything in particular worthy of retaliation is moronic. There's no poetry there, just a bunch of children playing around with the 2011 equivalent of AOHell (and yes, I realize that most of them are probably to young to even know WTF I'm talking about).
mindstab 15y ago
It's seems like they are almost a caricature. Maybe they really are, or see my conspiracy theory http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2655040 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2655040
- wladimir 15y ago
  Agreed. It looks very much like a front, or weird viral/marketing operation. Not sure it is by a government but that'd be possible. They piss off literally everybody, and don't even have the remote resemblance of anything like ethics. Smells like a caricature. They hack company after company in such a short time, are very vocal and cocky about it, but still manage to not make mistakes and get caught. "Too good to be true" rings a bell? Maybe they're trying to lure people in somehow? I couldn't even guess what the goal is, but it's weird.

itg 15y ago

They were taking requests for ddos targets. I don't think they care who they piss off since it is all about the " lulz" to them.

dexen 15y ago
> UPDATE: The group now claims to have taken down the League of Legends login servers as well as eight other sites requested by users phoning in. Their claim is to have taken on phone-in DRM that pissed off users -- to the point the users wished the servers to crash and burn. Pretty much similar reasoning to Sony hacks, if you ask me...

redthrowaway 15y ago

They don't care. They're doing to to amuse themselves. That's really all it is. No overarching strategy or cause, just lulz.

Goladus 15y ago

I think they want to project power. I don't think they want anyone to be indifferent about them. Beyond that, it's almost impossible to know their motivations.

hugh3 15y ago
Think "Revenge of the Nerds" if it were a horror movie instead of a comedy.