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Please don't upgrade ANYTHING without asking first. I am NOT your beta-tester.

by jerhewet 6y ago

bigiain 6y ago
Ummm, I have some bad news for you... (See also “other duties as required” in your job description...)
coldtea 6y ago
Well, big chance that you're not their paying customer either...
- enumjorge 6y ago
  Docker derives a lot of its value from how widely it’s been adopted in the industry, which includes its free users.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    And kings derive a lot of their value from their subjects, but they can treat them like shit and still be kings.
jchonphoenix 6y ago
Your response is dripping with entitlement. You likely don't pay for Docker and do not provide any beneficial relationship to Docker. Why should they be beholden to your opinions? If they wanted to ship you buggy software, that's within their right. You then have the option to decide whether or not you want to use it. That's within your right.
- king_magic 6y ago
  There's no reason to be rude here. Ever see the kinds of insane enterprise-wise nightmares that auto-upgrades with breaking changes cause? They aren't pretty.
  - kazen44 6y ago
    there is a reason many ops teams prefer to not run the latest and greatests bleeding edge, no matter what features they bring. Breaking changes in some cases can be a real problem.
  - acdha 6y ago
    Enterprises should be paying customers if they want that kind of support: it's expensive and requires substantial staffing investment to avoid making matters worse by, for example, delaying installation of security updates.
  - jchonphoenix 6y ago
    There's no rudeness in my comment. I'd argue the tone is much softer than the original post. I agree that auto upgrades can cause enterprise nightmares, but my point is, you aren't using an enterprise product. You're using a free and unpaid product. Why do we have the right to attack and make demands of someone who isn't getting compensated?
- deleted 6y ago
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deckard1 6y ago
I'm not sure this is even possible today. SaaS is literally you being subject to unpredictable A/B tests, UX changes, API changes, etc. This is what people signed up for. Automatically managed updates. I don't know too many places that don't rely on some sort of cloud service/SaaS today. Can Github even hit two nines availability this year, I wonder. But we all sit idle while they fix their shit for the 8th time this month.

Please don't upgrade ANYTHING without asking first. I am NOT your beta-tester.

bigiain 6y ago

Ummm, I have some bad news for you... (See also “other duties as required” in your job description...)

coldtea 6y ago

Well, big chance that you're not their paying customer either...

enumjorge 6y ago
Docker derives a lot of its value from how widely it’s been adopted in the industry, which includes its free users.
- coldtea 6y ago
  And kings derive a lot of their value from their subjects, but they can treat them like shit and still be kings.

jchonphoenix 6y ago

Your response is dripping with entitlement. You likely don't pay for Docker and do not provide any beneficial relationship to Docker. Why should they be beholden to your opinions? If they wanted to ship you buggy software, that's within their right. You then have the option to decide whether or not you want to use it. That's within your right.

king_magic 6y ago
There's no reason to be rude here. Ever see the kinds of insane enterprise-wise nightmares that auto-upgrades with breaking changes cause? They aren't pretty.
- kazen44 6y ago
  there is a reason many ops teams prefer to not run the latest and greatests bleeding edge, no matter what features they bring. Breaking changes in some cases can be a real problem.
- acdha 6y ago
  Enterprises should be paying customers if they want that kind of support: it's expensive and requires substantial staffing investment to avoid making matters worse by, for example, delaying installation of security updates.
- jchonphoenix 6y ago
  There's no rudeness in my comment. I'd argue the tone is much softer than the original post. I agree that auto upgrades can cause enterprise nightmares, but my point is, you aren't using an enterprise product. You're using a free and unpaid product. Why do we have the right to attack and make demands of someone who isn't getting compensated?
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deckard1 6y ago

I'm not sure this is even possible today. SaaS is literally you being subject to unpredictable A/B tests, UX changes, API changes, etc. This is what people signed up for. Automatically managed updates. I don't know too many places that don't rely on some sort of cloud service/SaaS today. Can Github even hit two nines availability this year, I wonder. But we all sit idle while they fix their shit for the 8th time this month.