As an English major programmer, I still get a kick out of Eric Raymond's classic quote on the matter of CS education: "Computer science education cannot make a

As an English major programmer, I still get a kick out of Eric Raymond's classic quote on the matter of CS education: "Computer science education cannot make anybody an expert programmer any more than studying brushes and pigment can make somebody an expert painter." Perhaps this is changing? When I was still in school, I managed to outprogram all the CS majors in my elective programming and sys admin classes as an English major. They all wanted to program to earn the money, but never adopted the programming mindset or learned new skills outside of class. It reminds me of parents who dump their kids at school, expecting teachers to simply cram reading ability into their kids in <50 minutes a day without any help from the parents.