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I'm not. I'm in the US saying "stop attacking China without evidence." Edit: criticize justly and specifically, not nationalistically. Attacking any group usin

I'm not. I'm in the US saying "stop attacking China without evidence." Edit: criticize justly and specifically, not nationalistically. Attacking any group using stretched/thin arguments makes the accusers look weak.

ryanfreeborn 6y ago
Perhaps other MSM publications. The specific article here talks about US accidents in high-standards labs, and posits that those same accidents can happen in other countries. It's not attacking China at all. What you're describing doesn't apply to the discussion in this article or this thread, just seems non-productive.
dang 6y ago
What country you're in when you make a comment doesn't affect whether it's a good HN comment or not. Your comment wasn't a good comment for HN because it used name-calling ("yellow journalism", "hating on", "FUD"), and because it was clearly a step further toward conflict between countries in the thread, which is what I mean by nationalistic flamewar. I'm sure it felt like you were just being defensive and I completely get that, but comments here need to be more substantive and less flamebaity, no matter how wrong or unfair other commenters are, or you feel they are. That's not easy, but it's something we all need to work on, regardless of which side we're on. Also, I don't think it's accurate to describe this specific article, or most of the comments in this thread (with some bad exceptions) as attacking China. We try to watch out for that and have scolded and moderated many commenters who have crossed that line (including some in this thread). HN's Chinese users, and users with Chinese family backgrounds, are absolutely welcome here, just as welcome as anybody else, and we don't tolerate slurs. You can see some of the long history of this here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20chin&sort=byDate&type=story&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

ryanfreeborn 6y ago

Perhaps other MSM publications. The specific article here talks about US accidents in high-standards labs, and posits that those same accidents can happen in other countries. It's not attacking China at all. What you're describing doesn't apply to the discussion in this article or this thread, just seems non-productive.

dang 6y ago

What country you're in when you make a comment doesn't affect whether it's a good HN comment or not. Your comment wasn't a good comment for HN because it used name-calling ("yellow journalism", "hating on", "FUD"), and because it was clearly a step further toward conflict between countries in the thread, which is what I mean by nationalistic flamewar. I'm sure it felt like you were just being defensive and I completely get that, but comments here need to be more substantive and less flamebaity, no matter how wrong or unfair other commenters are, or you feel they are. That's not easy, but it's something we all need to work on, regardless of which side we're on. Also, I don't think it's accurate to describe this specific article, or most of the comments in this thread (with some bad exceptions) as attacking China. We try to watch out for that and have scolded and moderated many commenters who have crossed that line (including some in this thread). HN's Chinese users, and users with Chinese family backgrounds, are absolutely welcome here, just as welcome as anybody else, and we don't tolerate slurs. You can see some of the long history of this here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20chin&sort=byDate&type=story&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....