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Nobody has ever realistically said all should make the same. Even the USSR had different pay for different skills. Money hording is unacceptable.

trident5000 6y ago
Money hoarding has nothing to do with your life quality as life quality is a logistical issue not a money issue. If I give everyone 1 million dollars for example, there are still only 30k nurses in the country for 320 million people. Nothing changes except for the price of nursing services. The same goes for homes, education, etc. And rich people dont take 50 nurses, buy all the single family homes, or eat 1000x their portion of food. Quit making excuses and being a negative person and learn to understand that life quality is about expanding economic production and efficiency through entrepreneurs, not being a negative jealous person trying to bring everyone down so its all fair and square but production comes to a halt and everyone is worse off. Socialist thinkers like yourself are really short sighted and the Karens of the economic world.
- misterkrabs 6y ago
  It's a tough sell, saying that Elon Musk and other entrepreneurs are more effective with their money than a democratically-elected board of experts might be. Production doesn't come to a halt without entrepreneurs in any world except Ayn Rand's.
  - TapWaterBandit 6y ago
    Ah yes, I know of many great companies that were founded by democratically-elected boards for experts. Imaginatron, Fantasticallipsis, Non-existamatica, and of course many others. Can you honestly name a single company that was founded in this way you claim would be better?
  - djohnston 6y ago
    Yikes I couldn't disagree with this harder. Design by committee is a dumpster fire 99% of the time. Even "Mythical Man Month" discusses the importance of a top down design for software systems.
astrange 6y ago
Money hoarding doesn't directly affect other people in a fiat system; remember money is fake, we can just make more of it. Hoarding it is a deflationary pressure and is combated by inflating again. (this is called functional finance and of course isn't 100% true, you do have to reclaim the hoard through taxes or something eventually) Rich people do things like own Amazon rather than own a huge pile of money; this makes them rich because a whole lot of other people are willing to give them money. This also doesn't directly affect you, but at least it indirectly affects you differently.
cryptonector 6y ago
There's no such thing as money hoarding. If you keep cash in the mattress it loses value to inflation (i.e., to the state). If you keep money in the financial system then that money is _used_ to fund others' ventures. If you invest your money (e.g., in a business, in stocks, whatever) then the money gets transferred to others who will do similar things, and you now have possession of a (hopefully) productive asset! There is no such thing as money hoarding. "Money hoarding" is ideological and utter nonsense.

trident5000 6y ago

Money hoarding has nothing to do with your life quality as life quality is a logistical issue not a money issue. If I give everyone 1 million dollars for example, there are still only 30k nurses in the country for 320 million people. Nothing changes except for the price of nursing services. The same goes for homes, education, etc. And rich people dont take 50 nurses, buy all the single family homes, or eat 1000x their portion of food. Quit making excuses and being a negative person and learn to understand that life quality is about expanding economic production and efficiency through entrepreneurs, not being a negative jealous person trying to bring everyone down so its all fair and square but production comes to a halt and everyone is worse off. Socialist thinkers like yourself are really short sighted and the Karens of the economic world.

misterkrabs 6y ago
It's a tough sell, saying that Elon Musk and other entrepreneurs are more effective with their money than a democratically-elected board of experts might be. Production doesn't come to a halt without entrepreneurs in any world except Ayn Rand's.
- TapWaterBandit 6y ago
  Ah yes, I know of many great companies that were founded by democratically-elected boards for experts. Imaginatron, Fantasticallipsis, Non-existamatica, and of course many others. Can you honestly name a single company that was founded in this way you claim would be better?
- djohnston 6y ago
  Yikes I couldn't disagree with this harder. Design by committee is a dumpster fire 99% of the time. Even "Mythical Man Month" discusses the importance of a top down design for software systems.

astrange 6y ago

Money hoarding doesn't directly affect other people in a fiat system; remember money is fake, we can just make more of it. Hoarding it is a deflationary pressure and is combated by inflating again. (this is called functional finance and of course isn't 100% true, you do have to reclaim the hoard through taxes or something eventually) Rich people do things like own Amazon rather than own a huge pile of money; this makes them rich because a whole lot of other people are willing to give them money. This also doesn't directly affect you, but at least it indirectly affects you differently.

cryptonector 6y ago

There's no such thing as money hoarding. If you keep cash in the mattress it loses value to inflation (i.e., to the state). If you keep money in the financial system then that money is _used_ to fund others' ventures. If you invest your money (e.g., in a business, in stocks, whatever) then the money gets transferred to others who will do similar things, and you now have possession of a (hopefully) productive asset! There is no such thing as money hoarding. "Money hoarding" is ideological and utter nonsense.