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I am on a quest for facts, hard in this debate. So this was the original post that lead to RMS resign. https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-fec

I am on a quest for facts, hard in this debate. So this was the original post that lead to RMS resign. https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794 https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec21... Here is a defending one. https://whoisylvia.medium.com/richard-stallman-has-been-vilified-by-those-who-dont-know-him-a3907b25b4c7 https://whoisylvia.medium.com/richard-stallman-has-been-vili... But there I have a question. Regarding the "Knight for justice (and hot ladies)" sign. "not the sign about welcoming “hot ladies” on his MIT Media lab office door, which someone else wrote as a joke and which he removed but not before someone took a photo of it" Was the sign a one-time joke, someone knowingly did, RMS left amused there for a while, days, weeks, months? Or was he annoyed and removed it once he got to it? Or was it part of a smear campaign? Even just happened recently at the time of the attacks, or way before? Quite different scenarios. I suspect the first one to be true. But I am open to more solid facts, for example by someone, who actually was or is at the MIT.

Avamander 6y ago
Here's a better source than both of those: https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
pnt12 6y ago
In your quest for truth, do you question yourself: what's the harm of the sign? Is it sexual assault? Harassing? A bad joke? And what should we do about it? Ask him to take it out? Refuse to have him at conferences and universities? Kick him from MIT and the FSF? We're too quick with our judgment and punishment nowadays. This level of offense used to be normal from the Christian prudes and the scared moms, not the progressive liberals.
- symlinkk 6y ago
  The same people that celebrate women creating OnlyFans accounts and flaunting their sexuality online are pretending to be offended over this.
- hutzlibu 6y ago
  "In your quest for truth, do you question yourself: what's the harm of the sign?" To me it would be not such a big deal, but to a pretty, but insecure hacker women - probably yes. As she would then avoid RMS and the FSF. If the FSF is fine with that, fine for them. I am also not joining. But to me a big deal is, how people are dealing with facts. Because saying, someone else wrote it and put it up and RMS put it down implies he did not endorse it. People here told me it is fake. But if he would have left it there for good and only put it down much later after people told him that it is not appropriate... then saying the sign is fake would be lying propaganda to be. And if someone would have put it there with the purpose of discediting RMS - would tell about about its enemies. Thats why I want facts. So far I gathered quite some facts about quite some people involved. But like I said, for all I care, RMS can be total or partial leader of the FSF again. They are not really my crowd anyway, despite myself living and loving open source.

Avamander 6y ago

Here's a better source than both of those: https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web

pnt12 6y ago

In your quest for truth, do you question yourself: what's the harm of the sign? Is it sexual assault? Harassing? A bad joke? And what should we do about it? Ask him to take it out? Refuse to have him at conferences and universities? Kick him from MIT and the FSF? We're too quick with our judgment and punishment nowadays. This level of offense used to be normal from the Christian prudes and the scared moms, not the progressive liberals.

symlinkk 6y ago
The same people that celebrate women creating OnlyFans accounts and flaunting their sexuality online are pretending to be offended over this.
hutzlibu 6y ago
"In your quest for truth, do you question yourself: what's the harm of the sign?" To me it would be not such a big deal, but to a pretty, but insecure hacker women - probably yes. As she would then avoid RMS and the FSF. If the FSF is fine with that, fine for them. I am also not joining. But to me a big deal is, how people are dealing with facts. Because saying, someone else wrote it and put it up and RMS put it down implies he did not endorse it. People here told me it is fake. But if he would have left it there for good and only put it down much later after people told him that it is not appropriate... then saying the sign is fake would be lying propaganda to be. And if someone would have put it there with the purpose of discediting RMS - would tell about about its enemies. Thats why I want facts. So far I gathered quite some facts about quite some people involved. But like I said, for all I care, RMS can be total or partial leader of the FSF again. They are not really my crowd anyway, despite myself living and loving open source.